Talk:Dirty Talk/Three Brats/June 19th, 2021/Family Secrets

Regarding "Option B" and possible plans going forward, Ludwig's reaction is still a big question mark for me. Would it be positive, neutral, or negative?

My own thoughts: I have this idea of how every character is in my mind, what their personalities are, what motivates them, what their goals are etc., and based on this, the idea of him going something like, "this is wonderful!" wouldn't sound too believable to me, which is why an overall positive reaction would be unlikely. Similarly, I can't imagine a situation where he would just nonchalantly say something like, "oh, you wear a star? That means you can do it with me now!". I don't know. I'd say that a positive reaction wouldn't happen, which is why I'd lean against it.

For neutral reactions, having him ignore it and just bring it up with Laura to discuss it being worrisome would be boring; having him try to talk Emilia out of it might also be a little boring. Maybe he would react in some way after realizing Emilia wasn't going to listen? It could be an idea worth exploring. Or maybe Emilia could lie and just move on to keep this a secret between herself and her mother? I don't know, that sounds maybe a little boring too?

Regarding a negative reaction, it doesn't necessarily have to mean some family drama, him yelling at her daughter, divorcing his wife for being a damn disgrace, or whatever. I wouldn't want that! This ain't "the bold and the beautiful"! More likely, he would just be disappointed in his daughter and punish her somehow for wearing it … perhaps by making her do something naughty?

Lastly, I'd say that a route where Ludwig would just embrace the idea of his daughter wearing the star and taking a similar approach as Laura did is unlikely and is something I'm not too interested in writing. A one-time sex scene would be okay, maybe two-time if Emilia gets busted by her father further down the line. Anyway, I'm curious to hear your thoughts and maybe suggestions too, as I don't have a solid plan for this option. -- Innocent Ruin (talk) 23:13, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Lots of ways you could play it, for sure. Here's the rough outline of something I might do if I were writing it.

Emilia has the star on her upper arm or shoulder and takes off a sweater to reveal it while doing something else, giving her plausible deniability that she forgot about it. Ludwig notices and immediately scolds her. She asks "You know what this means?" and he replies "Do you?" and she timidly undresses. He stares dumbfounded then starts ranting about how irresponsible she's being and how he thought he raised her better and you better hope your mother doesn't find out then leads her to the bedroom. He bends her over the bed, takes off his belt, and takes out his sexual frustration from such a blatant forbidden opportunity being presented to him by spanking Emilia silly. If you wanted more "consent" than that, she asks why she has to bend over the bed, he tells her, and she replies with "if that's what you want" implying that he's actually using her star.

His own guilt and frustration would cause Ludwig to hide this encounter from his wife. Laura could take it all sorts of directions; she could force Emilia to taunt Ludwig further whenever she wanted to punish her daughter, or probe him with "what-ifs" after claiming to have herself spotted a girl in town wearing a star.

Anyway, hope it's helpful! --Villenia (talk) 08:24, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea to have him react negatively. I think that Emilia and Laura should have to team up to corrupt him over time. Really what guy would be immune to that? It doesn't matter how devoted or pure you are; when subjected to the machinations of devious and beautiful females, no man has a chance...except gay men I suppose.

Seeing the star, he could ground Emilia. Laura would then make him feel guilty for punishing her for exploring her budding sexuality. Then he would have a talk with Emilia about being careful with the stars...maybe laying down some ground rules? All the while Emilia is arousing him under her mother's guidance. It's only a matter of time before he crumbles. --Elerneron (talk) 10:06, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking it should be a negative reaction, lol. I like both ideas so far but don't want to copy them verbatim. I think I'm starting to have a decent idea of how this could unfold, and given that the early votes favor it, it's probably going to happen.

Regarding corrupting him slowly over time, that certainly sounds like a great long-term plan. I don't imagine corrupting him being too difficult. I mean, he used to do this stuff a lot before he married Laura, and he's open to her doing naughty stuff (as long as it doesn't involve her getting her holes stuffed), so luring him back to the "dark side" might be easy. You could easily get Heidi and Milka involved in assisting Emilia corrupt him as well. -- Innocent Ruin (talk) 19:20, 24 September 2021 (UTC)