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Oh, yeah I'll fix that. Didn't know about the word's use. I'll try to be more careful when choosing them from now on.
As for the punishment, there's a reason why there was a restriction instead of physical beatings. It's a bit vague in the moment as it means to be understood through reading between the lines, but it will be clearer why later on --[[User:Writeranon|Writeranon]] ([[User talk:Writeranon|talk]]) 19:50, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
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In a medieval (or any pre-flight) setting the term '''grounded''' is out of place.  It's anachronistic.  Grounding as a punishment is taken from the time of flight when pilots were grounded . . . thus forbidden to fly; literally bound to the ground.  I suppose in a fantasy setting there might be a correlation to a different type of flying force be it dragon riders, magic carpet riders, or even featheries flying under their own power (since this is a furry story).  That force might also have a status where they are '''grounded''' and thus forbidden to fly that would then make its way into the common lexicon the way it has in our world.  That said, I don't have a problem with the use of the term ''per se'', but it was rather jarring to just come across it casually in a per-industrial story.  In earlier times punishment via restriction were much more rare than they are today.  Generally punishment was physical in nature until more recent times . . . generally beatings.  Restriction as punishment was reserved for adults in the form of imprisonment.  Sorry to go off on a tangent.  I haven't actually had time to read the story fully, just the bits I pick up when patrolling the edits each day; so I don't know the setting very well.  The word just struck me as out of place, so I thought I'd see if, after knowing the origin of the word, you still wanted to use it in your story.  --[[User:Elerneron|Elerneron]] ([[User talk:Elerneron|talk]]) 18:05, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
In a medieval (or any pre-flight) setting the term '''grounded''' is out of place.  It's anachronistic.  Grounding as a punishment is taken from the time of flight when pilots were grounded . . . thus forbidden to fly; literally bound to the ground.  I suppose in a fantasy setting there might be a correlation to a different type of flying force be it dragon riders, magic carpet riders, or even featheries flying under their own power (since this is a furry story).  That force might also have a status where they are '''grounded''' and thus forbidden to fly that would then make its way into the common lexicon the way it has in our world.  That said, I don't have a problem with the use of the term ''per se'', but it was rather jarring to just come across it casually in a per-industrial story.  In earlier times punishment via restriction were much more rare than they are today.  Generally punishment was physical in nature until more recent times . . . generally beatings.  Restriction as punishment was reserved for adults in the form of imprisonment.  Sorry to go off on a tangent.  I haven't actually had time to read the story fully, just the bits I pick up when patrolling the edits each day; so I don't know the setting very well.  The word just struck me as out of place, so I thought I'd see if, after knowing the origin of the word, you still wanted to use it in your story.  --[[User:Elerneron|Elerneron]] ([[User talk:Elerneron|talk]]) 18:05, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

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Oh, yeah I'll fix that. Didn't know about the word's use. I'll try to be more careful when choosing them from now on.

As for the punishment, there's a reason why there was a restriction instead of physical beatings. It's a bit vague in the moment as it means to be understood through reading between the lines, but it will be clearer why later on --Writeranon (talk) 19:50, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

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In a medieval (or any pre-flight) setting the term grounded is out of place. It's anachronistic. Grounding as a punishment is taken from the time of flight when pilots were grounded . . . thus forbidden to fly; literally bound to the ground. I suppose in a fantasy setting there might be a correlation to a different type of flying force be it dragon riders, magic carpet riders, or even featheries flying under their own power (since this is a furry story). That force might also have a status where they are grounded and thus forbidden to fly that would then make its way into the common lexicon the way it has in our world. That said, I don't have a problem with the use of the term per se, but it was rather jarring to just come across it casually in a per-industrial story. In earlier times punishment via restriction were much more rare than they are today. Generally punishment was physical in nature until more recent times . . . generally beatings. Restriction as punishment was reserved for adults in the form of imprisonment. Sorry to go off on a tangent. I haven't actually had time to read the story fully, just the bits I pick up when patrolling the edits each day; so I don't know the setting very well. The word just struck me as out of place, so I thought I'd see if, after knowing the origin of the word, you still wanted to use it in your story. --Elerneron (talk) 18:05, 13 October 2019 (UTC)