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Thanks, this is perfect. I found out right after I finished the character profile that it was indeed Lore friendly, so I definitely want to follow it since it is. --[[User:Hgcollins|Hgcollins]] ([[User talk:Hgcollins|talk]]) 20:35, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, this is perfect. I found out right after I finished the character profile that it was indeed Lore friendly, so I definitely want to follow it since it is. --[[User:Hgcollins|Hgcollins]] ([[User talk:Hgcollins|talk]]) 20:35, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Apologies for going on a bit of a tangent on an issue that has been solved(?), but the funny thing about the in-game books is that they're always written from the perspective of a resident of the world, if that makes sense. So, while in-game evidence is vastly in favor of the quoted text (and while I try to follow it myself as accurately as possible), it in the end is only a collection of observations from the perspective of an Imperial scholars rather than hard evidence. It, for example, does not recognize Orcs as mer, even though another lore book that has existed for as long does. [https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_True_Nature_of_Orcs]. "The Grey Prince", an Orc in Oblivion for example is known to have an Imperial father. Another contradiction comes from a book in ESO, which is about Bretons. A fun read as well. [https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Bretons:_Mongrels_or_Paragons%3F].
For me the question of having "mongrel" races is more  about how much does the child inherit from each of his or her parents? Based on almost everything we know we can say it's not 50/50, but since the long-term dilution of genepool is very much a thing, a less substantial short-term dilution also has to be. So, maybe it's more like 20/80, or even 10/90, 5/95? Is it always the same, or are there cases where the father's genes play a more substantial role?
In the end, I don't know, just food for thought. I'm not gonna say it's impossible to have a mixed-race child, although I must say I personally would probably avoid it. An easy fix (perhaps a possible suggestion?) for the problem would be also to race-swap her mother, although I'm not sure if that's what you want. [[User:Innocent Ruin|Innocent Ruin]] ([[User talk:Innocent Ruin|talk]]) 00:42, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

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I know that you said that you didn't care about the lore, but it states that when men and mer interbreed the child has the racial characteristics of the mother, but may have traces of the father's appearance. As per https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Racial_Phylogeny. A book within Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. --Elerneron (talk) 08:02, 16 May 2021 (UTC)


Thanks, this is perfect. I found out right after I finished the character profile that it was indeed Lore friendly, so I definitely want to follow it since it is. --Hgcollins (talk) 20:35, 5 June 2021 (UTC)


Apologies for going on a bit of a tangent on an issue that has been solved(?), but the funny thing about the in-game books is that they're always written from the perspective of a resident of the world, if that makes sense. So, while in-game evidence is vastly in favor of the quoted text (and while I try to follow it myself as accurately as possible), it in the end is only a collection of observations from the perspective of an Imperial scholars rather than hard evidence. It, for example, does not recognize Orcs as mer, even though another lore book that has existed for as long does. [1]. "The Grey Prince", an Orc in Oblivion for example is known to have an Imperial father. Another contradiction comes from a book in ESO, which is about Bretons. A fun read as well. [2].

For me the question of having "mongrel" races is more about how much does the child inherit from each of his or her parents? Based on almost everything we know we can say it's not 50/50, but since the long-term dilution of genepool is very much a thing, a less substantial short-term dilution also has to be. So, maybe it's more like 20/80, or even 10/90, 5/95? Is it always the same, or are there cases where the father's genes play a more substantial role?

In the end, I don't know, just food for thought. I'm not gonna say it's impossible to have a mixed-race child, although I must say I personally would probably avoid it. An easy fix (perhaps a possible suggestion?) for the problem would be also to race-swap her mother, although I'm not sure if that's what you want. Innocent Ruin (talk) 00:42, 7 June 2021 (UTC)