Talk:Dirty Talk/Three Brats/June 21st, 2021/Emilia makes a decision

Fair warning, I'm already leaning towards the "regret" path, even though I don't know where that would go yet. Always interesting to consider what a "bad ending" in a CYOA could look like. Would probably end up pushing the boundaries a bit. Nothing insane, certainly. No one is dying or losing an eye or anything morbid, but a "bad" ending could indeed be rough. I think I might write it as an actual end that would kick you back to the beginning, or perhaps jump to several months down the road. Everything's still up in the air, but it's an interesting idea that I'd like to try, unless there are strong objections. --Villenia (talk) 06:49, 25 October 2022 (CEST)

no objections from me at least a bad end sounds good but i hope this doesn't mean you aren't gonna continue this paths even if you add a bad end (that way you could still do the bad ending and still get the other path open in case you wanna do other options) i mean do what you feel you wanna write im loving your stories so ill read anything but im sure it will depends on innocent, i hope is that is not a short end or that can be extended a bit more i like the extra months in the future thing but im happy to see what you do anyway no matter what it is after all all paths need an ending anyway but innocent is the one should decide if its okay to have a bad end. Found the path so i erase the other question i mean now that i know where we are i say yeah fucked it do what you want i like bad ending as much as good ending (as long as people dont die) --Xephion (talk) 07:48, 25 October 2022 (CEST)

I've been toying with the idea of "endings" and time skips myself and I'm all for that. I'm morbidly curious in that choice myself, although at the same time, I almost feel like a "bad" bad end would go against the whole premise of the story. Extreme sex is perfectly okay and encouraged, but I really, really don't want Emilia end up making a choice she comes to seriously "regret". Like, as nicely as I can put this, it would be impossible to differentiate that kind of content from rape at that point, even if she IS the one who puts the black on herself. That would almost definitely have to end up in a tragedy for everyone involved, especially the rapist. Even if you want to ignore the supernatural shit, someone would be losing an eye.

So I guess what I'm trying to say, no strong objection per se, as long as the story rules are being properly respected. If you want to do a "bad ending", I would suggest for Emilia wearing black and vote "reluctantly loving it" with whoever you have in mind. -- Innocent Ruin (talk) 08:50, 25 October 2022 (CEST)

i agree i think it shouldn't be that Emilia regrets it if anyone would regret it should be laura the one who regrets it since she is the one who made emilia and danny meet, but yeah i feel emilia should maybe pretend she hates it but she doesnt or something like that. and the reason that is a bad end is because now she lives with him and doesnt see her family and friends often or at all since she is obsessed with him (maybe she sees laura from time to time too i guess since laura and danny seem to have some kind of mutual agreement but who knows if that stands now that Emilia is going to be his) im just thinking out loud feel free to ignore all of this and do what you want to do im just saying my opinion and my idea --Xephion (talk) 09:50, 25 October 2022 (CEST)

FANTASTIC POINT ON LAURA! She should always be a loving mother first and foremost, and if anyone here should have any regrets following a "bad end", it's her. Like seriously, I don't like being too critical of her personality in Villenia's paths because I hate to be a content police, but she's just SO strict and even abusive, when it's not at all what I intended her to be.

But then, Emilia living with Danny? With Danny's family around? That's a hard no from me. Nuh-uh. He hides his sexlife from his wife. Ronja hasn't been introduced in the story yet, but trust me, she HATES the "game", and Danny IS "cheating" on her.

Last point I will make, read up on This article. These are the rules I try to follow to the best of my abilities when writing content to this story, even outside bdsm, to keep shit overtly consensual. Those are just my two cents, along with the previous post. -- Innocent Ruin (talk) 10:29, 25 October 2022 (CEST)

oh yeah i forgot danny has a family lol yeah you are right, im even more curious how this is a bad end is gonna be then i wanna see it even more. is ironic because i do like laura thanks to villenia i know i just like the interactions a lot more, but i feel villenia know what is doing and i wanna see what it comes out of it so thats all like i said they were ideas and everyone is free to ignore them i did forgot about danny having a family --Xephion (talk) 10:51, 25 October 2022 (CEST)

Yeah I mean, I don't want my "suggestions" to come across as me not trusting what he's doing either. Like I said, I hate to police content. Just airing my personal feelings on the matter in hopes of maybe toning any potential "rapey" shit down. If the content ends up skirting the rules a little, well… I can live with that lol, as long as it's "nothing insane", like he said in the original post. I don't want to end up deleting anything because, in the end, my gratitude for the fact that he's willing to contribute to my story for free overrides everything else. -- Innocent Ruin (talk) 11:01, 25 October 2022 (CEST)

Regret can take many forms, so the experience itself (whatever that may be) doesn't necessarily have to be traumatic, although that was where I assumed it would go. All that said, I think I have some ideas to mull over! I might come back to this later and fill in some other branches in the meantime. --Villenia (talk) 17:51, 25 October 2022 (CEST)

Yeah that sounds fine and im sorry if we discouraged you of doing what you were planning to do thats was not our intention im sure, well im eagerly waiting for whatever you planning to do love your work and even when we cant do rape i like this situations that get extremely close to rape is like batman animated series where they couldn't do violence nor bad words so they did the entire violent show without ever showing the actual hits or blood it still to this day one of the best batman shows becuase of how creative where the makers of the show when they avoided censorship with loopholes and clever cuts

btw i have nothing against rape in other stories, i mean to be honest i do have 4 main kinks and rape is one of them but not all rape, rape stories is the one that im more strict with because i like single art page of rape you can always imagine the ending on your head but in a comic or story form you cant do that bc it has an ending, like i like it when is unrealistic to be specific, by unrealistic i mean is when the end is a happy ending or a revenge ending or it becomes consensual midway it has to be something that wont ever happened on real life or at least most of the time it wont happen otherwise after watching it it always leave this foul taste in my mouth, but even when i like something like rape a lot, i like stories like this ones who almost crossed the line but never do or if they do is never explicitly shown. as much as i would like some rape on this story i think is more interesting when you thread the needle of what is almost rape but it isn't, after all i like happy endings or dark endings with no bad repercussions. --Xephion (talk) 20:51, 25 October 2022 (CEST)

I don't dislike rape in fiction either. Most of my favorite doujin artists / circles have rape, whether it's comics or games. Some of that stuff is real brutal stuff too, like "Ryona". I mean for crying out loud, most of the stories I've posted to this site have non-con, violence and deal with depressive topics to one extent or another! I'm a sucker for that shit! 😂 Hell, I've had plenty of ideas for how to add rape to this story, but I'm still not doing it! Instead, I try to take those ideas and challenge myself to create consensual content out of it. Why? Because I just don't want this story to be one of them. Like, just this one story I start! 😭 This is a "happy sex-game", "looking forward" kind of story on principle, not because "it sure would be nice" or anything like that. Sure, setbacks and drama can happen and I would never disallow that. I would be even more of a hypocrite than I already am if I did, but the rules already allow for pretty much everything else sexual (except rape and murder) under the sun, and that should be more than enough for the story as a whole.

That's my final TED-talk lol. I need to take a break from the talk pages and actually write content. -- Innocent Ruin (talk) 22:14, 25 October 2022 (CEST)