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Maybe we can do the displaced punishment, by having both of them move in (mainly Sylvia but adding Tatiana because of the fact that Sylvia acted for Tatiana's benefit) until at least one of the following is completed:

* Birth children. Tatiana (1), Sylvia (2)
* Graduate from St. André Truitt

Because of the girl's current inability to bear children, due to their young age, a further punishment will be placed:

* The children's parental rights have been temporarily suspended and their parents are forbidden from interacting with the children. (Doesn't include siblings, as they may also still be enrolled in school.
** violations of this rule, by either parent, will automatically escalate to forced impregnation for the mothers and all female siblings that have gone through puberty.

(Just a threat, don't act upon it.)

And then, because the event(s) took place outside of the school, we can possibly lessen the punishment to an extent. Maybe have them wear kid's pajamas (the girls pick out [https://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1873554 horse themed]onsies) and have to have a faculty member watch them in the toilet.

Part of lessening, is that John might be afraid of going ''too far'' and having Mr. Granville retaliating. Possibly have Mr. Granville reassure that whatever we dole out, we have the final say. His voice becoming more gruff and intimidating, "but don't think you'll have [[Disciplinary Action/Disciplinary Office/Fired|free rein]] to [[Disciplinary Action/Disciplinary Office/All Over|do as you please]]."

Another part of wanting to lessen their punishment is the fact that they will be in his sister's class and he definitely doesn't want to be on her bad side. (At this point in time, does John even know that she teaches third grade?) --[[User:MrPib|MrPib]] ([[User talk:MrPib|talk]]) 19:25, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Isn't it awfully fast to jump straight to forcing them to live with John? He barely even has the job yet. This is his interview. Maybe punish, and keep bringing them back for more punishments later to justify moving them in with John after more of their wrongdoings are on the record? --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 19:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

As per Mr. Granville's exact words:
 "I can't be giving my family special treatment, Mr. Gardner. If anything, it is because she's my daughter that we need to make this punishment especially harsh. What she did is something outrageous, so her punishment should be the harshest available."

As of now on the timeline, the only options are
* loss of virginity.
* Deep internal ejaculation

However, none of the listed infractions and punishments can even compare to homosexual acts; a new category may need to be drafted and passed by ''legal''.

Our punishment for them can be the catalyst for implementing the ''extreme infraction'' category. This would make Mr. Granville's [[Disciplinary Action/Disciplinary Office/First Week/Headmaster/Matt and Liliana|reaction]] to Liliana's impending punishment, just that much more impactful.

Furthermore, as "homosexual acts" are an uncharted territory and the fact that ''every'' parent signed off on it (we know this isn't true. Some wives, some single mothers and the ladies at the brothel, didn't have a say), we sort of have carte blanche to do as we please. We just need Mr. Granville's sign off and we're golden. --[[User:MrPib|MrPib]] ([[User talk:MrPib|talk]]) 21:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

It just seems... beyond the suspension of disbelief for him to have his first two live in cum dumps before he even officially has the job. Perhaps give them the harshest punishments possible for the non lesbian activities (fighting, assault, disrespectful behavior etc), then talk to Mr. Granville about how the rules don't cover the lesbian activities and ask for clarification or an update to what you're allowed to do to qualify as a "proper punishment" for such a vile action? That way you're manipulating the assholes to change the rules so you ''have to'' confiscate their children. --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 02:11, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Yeah,I thought of that, just have to modify what I said above a tiny bit.

Suggest a higher punishment tier, for scenarios that weren't thought up at the time of drafting the guidelines. Nudge Mr. Granville towards the  "separation from parents" idea.
* By essentially "kicking their daughters to the curb" and "refusing" to talk to the girls, this shows that not only is homosexual activity shunned by the community, it can also lead to the family shunning the sinner as well. The homosexual youths are shunned at both school and at home.
And then suggest that by taking them home, they will have to sleep with the Director of Discipline and '''only''' the Director of Discipline but hey, at least they have a roof over their heads and aren't living on the streets or worse, the brothel.

Since there aren't any punishments suitable for their actions, we wanted to run it by Mr. Granville first and hopefully get it greenlit and implemented and their punishments don't have to start until that time.
'''jem does dice roll for ''canon'' timeline's decision.'''
* conclusion
* A woman that John presumes to be Sylvia's mother makes an appearance.
** she was not made aware of the fact that Sylvia was to be punished, she just showed up in order to see if Sylvia was at the school, because she was missing (implying the rest of the older girls are out looking for her too.) She interacts with John in a neutral manner, still full of suspicion. She is then made aware of everything, including the part of the punishment regarding not talking to Sylvia and the risk of pregnancy.
*** If it was Lucinda, she's flattered that another man finds her attractive but she thought John was a pedo. Not that she really minds, her ''husband'' started having sex with her, when she herself was only 8 years old. It's also nice to see you back in town, John.
*** if it was actually Lenore, posing as Sylvia's mother, then she'd have a severe blush 🥵, as well as a shit-eating grin. (Is she mad at John? Wait, why is she in the process of removing her panties?)  "Ok, when do we start?" "Stop, you don't have to, that part is only to prevent your husband from continuing to molest her. I will not force myself onto you, as you were not made fully aware of the ramifications." "Oh okay... thank you for caring about my ''daughter''. 😟 I'll be sure to read the guidelines carefully, so that my daughters won't be in your office again. I ''definitely'' wouldn't want to end up pregnant again. (Her plotting begins😈)"

--[[User:MrPib|MrPib]] ([[User talk:MrPib|talk]]) 03:13, 14 February 2024 (UTC)