View source for Talk:Life Hacks/Hallomod(gp-pre)/Wait, you think you saw something in the “rewards” that can help with this. Use the duck

Ok... the immortal one is pretty important but so is the get away with murder, both of which will pretty much wipe out his supply of points. Will he still gain points from things like public nudity and flashing kids if he has the get away with murder one? What about consentual sex in front of others, will they ignore that like they would rape? If he's immortal, then he'll eventually get them all (even if it's from prison).

Then again, if he goes with the get away with murder, he could rape everyone at the Holliday house without consequense (since he can use the duck to readjust their scores to be willing again). How many virgin impregnations is that? Might get immortality before going home lol --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 20:16, 15 December 2016 (CET)

Immortality will not do anything to his point earning potential. Getting away with murder, or the lesser "crime pays," will greatly reduce the number of times per day he can get points for something that the reward makes people ignore. So, he will get full points for virgin impregnations, but not for public nudity, flashing the kids, or observed rape. He will get the points once per day for general things and not at all for his personal list items. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 22:25, 15 December 2016 (CET)

I assumed as much on the immortality, but the speed at which he can earn another 5000 points is the issue. Say he took immortality and spent the last 1000 on Crime Pays. He then spends the rest of his stay with the Hollidays naked, and despite his naked erect cock dripping pre-cum all over the kids as he plays with them, he won't get any points for being exposed to kids (because the reward removes the consequenses) but would get points for copping a feel unnoticed? 

Once purchased can they be toggled off and on? Say he has Crime Pays, but wants to increase his cool factor by getting caught shoplifting and then talking his way out of it? Or more practically, he's naked with the Hollidays, the parents step out of the room, he toggles it off, the kids all get a look-see and he toggles it back on before the parents come back. Would that get the points? And would he know it was necessary? Might have to happen the second visit (or the next morning) after he checks his reward points and notices he didn't rack up what he expected. 

For that matter, say Crime Pays is active and he's naked with no one being upset. Then Nove (or one of the ones that might not know better but still be innocently curious) grabs hold of him and starts checking out his cock. Does that count as a crime that won't be noticed (and won't earn points) or get the kid scolded (leaving him consequense free) and earn points because it was acknowledged that the kid was touching him? --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 23:04, 15 December 2016 (CET)

The impression I got from Elerneron last time this subject was brought up was that there is no normal in-game way to toggle a reward on and off once purchased. Although, that actually would be a pretty good way to settle the issue, but if we were to include it then it really would go down to zero points for anything the cheat lets you get away with. Witch, really, I think is a much simpler way of applying this. At any rate, I personally am not sure I like the whole toggling for points idea, but then since this is considered a game I think that exploits like that do exist in games. I am having a tough time with that. At the same time though, Xander would have no idea he needs to do that sort of thing. Right now, he really has no clue where he got all those points from in the first place. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 23:38, 15 December 2016 (CET)

Oh! Right! So far as Nove touching you goes, if you have getting away with murder then she will not be chastised for any kind of interaction with you that involves noticing you are doing something illegal or socially impermissible, she would kind of get picked up on the fringe of the effect, but if you have only crime pays then it would probably happen about as you said it. They would treat it as though she randomly reached into his pants had he not been using the cheat. (also, it would lead to the odd situation where Xander could masturbate in public, but the second his sperm touched someone, a child especially, suddenly everyone would be up in arms.) [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 23:46, 15 December 2016 (CET)

So, after solidifying my thoughts a little, basically the effect of "crime pays" on nudity is that he is socially treated as though he is wearing cloths for all purposes even though everyone who might be interested in seeing a boy's naked cock will be 100% aware there is one right in front of them. This means that rubbing his pre-cum dribbling cock on someone is treated the same as if he were rubbing his clothed crotch on them. Inappropriate but not a huge flipping deal. The interesting thing will be that ejaculating on them with his cock pressed against them will be seen the same as cumming in his pants while they were touching him, while aiming his cock and jizing on them will be regarded as though he pulled down his pants and did this. Neither one would be seen as appropriate, but the first one can be dismissed as unintentional. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 00:53, 16 December 2016 (CET)