Talk:Wish/Matthew/Daniel's House/Cuddling Allorah/Pursue her freedom

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Instead of cleaning up the gore, could we have reversed the flow of time of the gore itself, to the point where the descendant was alive?

If Mathew marries the descendant, thus becoming the rightful heir, wouldn't the previous master's wish kick in? (For Allorah to kill the descendants)

What happens if Mathew travels back to a time where someone else has the ring and does something to where he now has multiple rings? 2 Allorahs, each with independent wish counters?

Using temporal magic, could we find a time where the ring didn't have an active owner (this 7 wishes), and bring the ring to the current time.

--MrPib (talk) 22:54, 13 October 2020 (CEST)


If Matthew brought the girl back to life, young Allorah would have to come kill her again. Enough of that and there could be some serious issues.

The wish made by Allorah's former master specifically stated those that shared Akbar's blood. Non-blood relatives would not be affected, therefore as an in-law he would not be killed. Unfortunately, young Allorah would show up and kill the bride before the wedding took place. Since the descendants are all human, he couldn't even try the whole "knock her up and your married" thing from Jinn Law. These loop holes are how I plan to write Matthew into becoming the master of his ring (not through the in-law loophole, but a similar one). I am putting some obstacles in the way to that path however . . . some rather major ones.

Any travel back in time where Matthew changes the course of history would create an divergent timeline. You would, in fact have an extra ring each time he did so, but remember all Allorah's are one being, no matter how many universes she is spread across. They are all one being. Since they would be from different time periods, it gets a bit complicated as she wouldn't be concurrent with herself. It might be an interesting path to explore; but not for me currently.

The multiverse model of time travel that I am using doesn't cause temporal paradoxes (one of my reasons for using it), but a fourth dimensional being added into the mix complicates matters almost as much. There are similar issues with bringing multiple copies of past rings (or worse yet potential future rings) to himself in the present. I might have to do some fiddling with the metaphysics of the story to stop it from happening just to avoid over-complicating things. It could be that bringing copies of the ring into proximity causes the rings to become one . . . I literally just thought of the obvious solution. There is only one ring. Like Allorah, the ring would need to be fourth dimensional to hold a jinni (actually it would need five physical dimensions to hold her outside of the space-time she was used to), therefore bringing other rings to Matthew by any means at all would have no effect as there is only one ring . . . but like Allorah, an earlier version of the ring could exist with the present version of the ring so we still have a conundrum. I thought I had it there.

--Elerneron (talk) 15:13, 14 October 2020 (CEST)