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Unless the individual is a sexual deviant who likes sex with people they don't know, these numbers are the minimum necessary for the individual in question to give 100% consent to a particular sex act or gesture of affection. As noted before, sex and romance are not associated in a child's mind. The numbers given here are the applicable value, not the romance value.
Unless the individual is a sexual deviant who likes sex with people they don't know, these numbers are the minimum necessary for the individual in question to give 100% consent to a particular sex act or gesture of affection. As noted before, sex and romance are not associated in a child's mind. The numbers given here are the applicable value, not the romance value.


==Determining the applicable value==
This guide lists the lowest un-modified score in the primary relationship stat necessary to gain your partner's consent, but this is only in cases where the person you are performing this sex act with was not even thinking about doing this sex act before you brought it up. It is an entirely different story if they are the ones who initiate a sex act. Anyone can initiate a sex act with you even if your relationship score with them in the appropriate area is 0. Also, even if you have 100% scores in your relationship with a person in the appropriate area, there are still conditions under witch you can have sex with them and they will consider it rape. These scores assume that you are talking them into sex in a friendly and calm way while making a good connection with them.
There is a 3 tier priority system as to what attribute is used to determine whether or not a sex act can be performed with an individual without them resisting. They are as follows.


===Submissiveness and grooming===
NOTE: This only applies to private sex between only the two of you with the partner you are performing these sex acts on. Observed sex acts of the mild level and higher is modified by their preference or distaste for exhibitionism. There is also a different score for permitting sex acts done to another that the person you have the score with feels responsible for. This is known as a surrogate consent score, witch can vary wildly as well and operates on trust normally for benign and dismissable acts, and with a modifier that is usually positive for the higher level acts, often taking hard-core and even moderate acts well above 100. (default is +20 per level above dismissable, so +20 for mild, +40 for moderate, +60 for hard-core, +80 for fetish, and +100 for rape. Yes, there is a surrogate sex score for rape, and conditions that will lower it below your score with them will cause them to consent to you raping a person in their charge.)
The effects of submissiveness are limited to whether or not the partner is groomed to accept the sex act. If the proper grooming procedure is followed, each grooming level being unlocked in order (useless if it is done out of order,) the partner's submissive value will be used to determine whether or not they will permit the sex act.
 
Note: Having a sex partner submit to a sex act is not the same as them giving consent. Submission and consent look more or less the same from the outside, but inside someone who submitted but did not consent will very much dislike that they are having this sex act performed on them. This does not necessarily mean a negative impact will result, but it is possible depending on the factors involved.
 
Fear can substitute for submission if fear meets the required level but submissiveness does not. In this case, the grooming method is not required but the partner that is made to submit through fear never considers it a consensual act regardless of whether or not any other score fits the requirements. This will always lower friendliness/raise enemy values, and may have other negative consequences. (being made to submit through fear will raise submissiveness levels.)
 
===Partner is 14 or younger===
Actually, it is somewhere between 13 and 16 that these methods change over, but the hard mid-line will be called at 14 for the sake of simplicity. A child does not connect sex an romance. To a child, romance means fairy tale wedding, being happy together, calling each other by affectionate names, and having children. Having children is not connected to sex for them either, but if they are aware that is how babies are made then a romance level of 10 is all that is needed to convince them to have vaginal intercourse so long as the other required scores are met.
 
Children under 14 use trust and friendship as their determining scores for whether or not they will permit a sex act, and trust is the more dominant of these two factors. Friendship must be at least 1/2 the value in question, and trust must meet or exceed the value.
 
Note: If familial love meets or exceeds the value for the sex act, the required trust value is reduced by the difference. Familial love does not substitute for trust, but it does make it significantly easier.
 
===Partner is 15 or older===
This is the standard method of acquiring consent. This method applies if none of the above 2 factors are present.
 
For someone who is 15 or older, there are some blurred lines between love and lust. The only real effective difference between the two for whether or not they will submit to a sex act though is how they will behave in the middle of the sex act. The romantic love score is the only factor measured in determining whether or not consent is achieved, and there is a little bit of wiggle room unlike with the above two categories. The partner will not be comfortable with a sex act unless they meet the required score, but if romance is being used as the measure then it can be as much as 10 points below and they will still consent.


==Benign sex acts==
==Benign sex acts==
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Acts that most would consider inappropriate unless you are in a romantic relationship, but most would not actually consider to be "sex." No other score may be substituted for romantic love except via the submission method.
Acts that most would consider inappropriate unless you are in a romantic relationship, but most would not actually consider to be "sex." No other score may be substituted for romantic love except via the submission method.


*'''Kiss on lips''' (30) (Note: Can be regarded as non-sexual in some families and have platonic love points substitute if raised in this way.)
*'''Kiss on lips (adult)''' (30) (Note: Can be regarded as non-sexual in some families and have platonic love points substitute if raised in this way.)
*'''French Kiss''' (40)
*'''French Kiss (adult)''' (40)
*'''Grope breasts and/or genitals''' (50)
*'''Grope breasts and/or genitals''' (50 X body shame)
*'''Change cloths, including underwear, in the same space as each other''' (50)
*'''Change cloths, including underwear, in the same space as each other''' (50 X body shame)
*'''Use toilet with other present in bathroom'''(55)
*'''Use toilet with other present in bathroom'''(55 X body shame)
*'''Reference or discuss moderate or hard-core sex with each other'''(55)
*'''Reference or discuss moderate or hard-core sex with each other'''(55)
*'''Kiss on lips (child)''' (55, romance only)
*'''Sexting''' (60)
*'''Sexting''' (60)
*'''Crotch to crotch clothed dry-humping'''(60)
*'''Crotch to crotch clothed dry-humping'''(60)
*'''Show privates to each other for no reason other than to just look'''(60 X body shame)
*'''Be casually naked with one another'''(60 X body shame)
*'''Suddenly kiss, grope, dry-hump, or take off cloths without prior consent or giving them a chance to object:''' (80 adult, 40 child)
*'''French Kiss (child)''' (80, romance and trust both)


==Moderate sex acts==
==Moderate sex acts==
Sex acts that most would consider sex, but would not get the "hard-core" label if filmed and put on a porn site.
Sex acts that most would consider sex, but would not get the "hard-core" label if filmed and put on a porn site.
*'''Touch each other's bare genitals with hand'''(65 X body shame)
*'''Masturbate partner to orgasm'''(67)
*'''Touch partner beneath cloths or perform oral sex on them without prior consent or chance to object:''' (70)
*'''Ejaculate on partner's body, not near an orifice (adult)'''(70)
*'''Receive oral sex'''(70)
*'''Ejaculate on child partner's male or female genitals, no prior concept of sex''' (70)
*'''Rub bare genitals together'''(75)
*'''Give oral sex'''(80)
*'''Ejaculate on female partner's vulva (adult or 10-14 year old child who knows about sex)'''(80)* Will not consent if worried about and avoiding pregnancy
*'''Ejaculate on child partner's body''' (80)
*'''Ejaculate on child partner's face''' (90)
*'''Ejaculate on child partner who did not know an ejaculation was going to happen:''' (80 or 110, 110 if they interpret it as pee)
*'''Suddenly begin masturbating partner under cloths without giving them a chance to object:''' (95 Adult, body shame for child)
*'''Ejaculate on partner or have partner perform oral sex without prior consent or chance to object:''' (110)
*'''Oral sex with child without giving them chance to consent:''' (140)


==Hard-core sex acts==
==Hard-core sex acts==
Sex acts that involve inserting the penis into a vagina or anus
Sex acts that involve semen and/or the penis going into a vagina or anus
 
*'''Girl on girl homosexual sex with child:''' (60 X body shame)
==Sexual knowledge modifiers==
*'''Vaginal sex with girl with no prior concept of sex or under 10 years of age:''' (70)
A child who lacks in sexual knowledge will not have quite as strong a taboo against certain things, so depending on on the score it may be easier to get them to do certain things. The list above assumes complete sexual knowledge and all the natural social defenses that make a person resist sexual activity. Therefore, all the items listed here are things that subtract from sexual resistance.
*'''All homosexual sex'''(80)
 
*'''Pushing semen from elsewhere into vagina with fingers'''(80)* Will not consent if worried about and avoiding pregnancy
Note: This is where the math might get really complicated. % reduction effects come into the game here. Please do not get too bogged down with it all. Again, these are meant as guide-lines, and it really matters more for writers than for readers. Even for a writer though, the recommendation would be to give these a quick once-over and then approximate the scores while you are writing. Being off by a few points is acceptable.
*'''Vaginal sex with condom'''(85, 60 for sex conscious girl under 15, 80 if not sex conscious.)
 
*'''Ejaculate into spread open vagina, no insertion'''(85)* Will not consent if worried about and avoiding pregnancy. -10 for children.
On the note of complicated percentages, a score cannot be reduced below 25% of its standard levels. The one exception to this rule is if body shame levels are below 25%, in witch case the body shame score becomes the new minimum percentage.
*'''Bare-back vaginal sex, promising to pull out'''(90, 85 for children)
 
*'''Bare-back vaginal sex, finishing inside (adult)'''(95)* Will not consent if worried about and avoiding pregnancy
==='''Sense of body shame'''===
*'''Fetish or taboo sex that does not align with partner's interests'''(100)* Also requires that the partner be submissive or persuadable with a reasoned argument or appeal.
A child usually begins to learn body shame at around 18 months, but it must be re-enforced by the parents and peer group to take full effect. The process of learning body shame is gradual, and it is usually age 6-8 that it has really sunk in and reached 100%.
*'''Blitz:''' (110) Having sex with your partner without giving them the chance to consent or reject. (may differ depending on partner and situation, no modifier should ever be listed on character profiles)
 
Body shame is the concept that tells a person that it is wrong to show their naked privates to other people, and also that it is wrong to have their privates touched by another person or to touch another person's privates. Usually at this age they do not have a very strong interest in touching another person's privates unless invited to do so.
 
Having a body shame level of less than 100% reduces all scores except for benign sex acts by the difference between 100 and their current body shame % level.
 
There are some things that can cap potential body shame levels at a level below 100% even after age 8. These are as follows.
(Note: There are exceptions, but this is the standard that can be predicted.)
 
*'''No strong social reinforcement:''' Cap = 20%
 
*'''Raised as a Naturist(Nudist):''' Cap = 80% sexual touching, 5% nudity and exposure
 
*'''Someone engaged in grooming behaviors with them before age 6:''' Cap = 100% - 20% per level of grooming completed.
 
*'''Casually engages in skimpy dressing or exhibitionist behaviors:''' Cap = 60%
 
*'''Mother dresses immodestly or behaves is a sexually permiscuous manner:''' Cap = 80%
 
*'''Age 5:''' Cap = 80%
 
*'''Age 4:''' Cap = 60%
 
*'''Age 3:''' Cap = 40%
 
*'''Age 2:''' Cap = 20%
 
*'''Age 18 months:''' Cap = 5%
 
==='''Knowledge of sexual mechanics'''===
How well a child or teen knows about the basic mechanics of sex. All negative values here apply to the moderate and hard-core sex act categories only.
 
*'''Does not know how babies are made:''' (-20)
Will perform sexual acts without concern for the consequences if they do not know what the consequences are.
 
*'''Does not know what the opposite gender's genitals look like:''' (-10)
Will be less guarded about showing their genitals to or have their genitals touched by the opposite gender if they think the other gender looks the same as them.
 
*'''Has an incorrect concept of how to prevent pregnancy:''' (-5)
Incorrectly thinks they won't get pregnant or get a girl pregnant, a little less reserved about sex as a result.
 
==='''Internalization of social-sexual values'''===
Regardless of how well a child may know or not know the mechanics of sex and no matter how much they have been taught to be modest, they have to actually internalize it and take it on as their own values in order for it to really take effect. Otherwise, they only follow these rules if there is an enforcer around.
 
These negative values only apply for children under 14 (except for the mid-puberty trait,) and only if they think they can avoid detection by an authority figure they feel will have a negative reaction to them doing this.
 
 
 
*'''Starting puberty:''' (-20)
The hormones of puberty lower sexual inhibitions, this effect is more pronounced before the brain learns how to adapt to this effect -20 values from the age at witch puberty starts until age 14.
 
*'''Mid puberty:''' (-10)
The brain has started to develop a resistance to sex hormones as the brain develops to a level it can better internalize society's views on sex. -10 values from ages 15 to 17.
 
*'''Curious about male genitals''' (-20)
Wants to see and/or touch the penis and testicles of an unspecific boy. Any boy will do if they feel they will not get in trouble with an authority figure for it. -20 values for sexual contact with boys.
 
*'''Curious about female genitals''' (-20)
Wants to see and/or touch the vulva and vangina of an unspecific girl. Any girl will do if they feel they will not get in trouble with an authority figure for it. -20 values for sexual contact with girls.
 
*'''Curious about semen''' (-10)
Wants to see or come into physical contact with semen. It does not matter what boy ejaculated the semen. -10 values for all moderate sex acts.
 
*'''Curious about penis insertion''' (-10)
Wants to feel what it is like to have a penis in a vagina or anus. Who the penis is attached to or who's vagina or anus it is only matters so much as they do not think the other person will spread the information around that they did this. -10 values for all hard-core sex acts.
 
*'''Curious about digital insertion''' (-10)
Wants to touch inside a vagina or anus or be touched inside with somebody else's fingers. Who's fingers and who's orifices it is only matters so much as they do not think the other person will spread the information around that they did this. -10 values to groping and mutual masturbation.
 
*'''Curious about sex''' (-20)
Female, wants to feel what it is like to have semen ejaculated into her vagina. Male, wants to feel what it is like to ejaculate inside a vagina or anus. Must have trust for the boy or girl involved, but standard romantic love levels can be less than half the normal requirement or not even present at all depending on circumstances. -20 values to all hard-core sex acts. (Trait requirements: Must know that semen comes out of the penis. Does not need to know that sex makes babies.)
 
*'''Fantasizes about babies''' (-10 to -60)
Wants to have a baby. Note: Does not need to know that sex is how babies are made. -10 to -60 values depending on strength of the desire for a baby if they are told this is how babies are made.
 
*'''Curious about impregnation'''(-40)
Wants to get pregnant/get a girl pregnant. Note, like all other traits on this list, this is simply due to curiosity and not an understanding of the consequences or romantic love for the person they are having the baby with. To them, they are just playing a game. The determining factor on whether or not they will let a boy get them pregnant/agree to get a girl pregnant is more friendliness than romance, although a romance score of at least 10 is still necessary. -40 to vaginal intercourse.
 
*'''Sexually acclimatized''' (-10/-5)
A child who does not understand the consequences of sex or sexual acts will feel more comfortable with such acts if they have performed these acts in the past and nothing bad has happened as a result. -10 values to any sex act in a category they have performed a sex act from at least 3 times before, and -5 values to the category immediately above it.
 
*'''Sexually groomed''' (-20/-10 or -50/-20)
A child who has regularly engaged in a type of sex act without any negative consequences may not see any problem at all with doing it again in the future. Although, sometimes this comfort with the act can be specific to an individual person. For the person who groomed them, -50 for acts of the level they were groomed on and -20 for the next level progression. For people aside from the person who groomed them, -20 for acts they were groomed for and -10 for the next level progression.


*'''Sexually violated (passive reaction)''' (-10,-20,-30)
A child who has had their sexual boundaries crossed against their will may feel they have no right to have sexual boundaries. -10 to all sex acts if they were touched over their cloths. -20 to all sex acts if they were touched on their bare genitals, ejaculated on, or made to touch another person's genitals, or raped once. -30 to all sex acts if they were raped multiple times. These values only apply to the submission method.


*'''Sexually violated (aggressive reaction)'''(+20, +40, +60)
Another possible reaction of a child who has had their sexual boundaries crossed against their will is to become more resistant to sexual activity. +20 to all sex acts if they were touched over their cloths. +40 to all sex acts if they were touched on their bare genitals, ejaculated on, or made to touch another person's genitals, or raped once. +60 to all sex acts if they were raped multiple times. These values apply to the trust and romance approaches only, values for the submission method are one quarter these levels.


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Latest revision as of 16:51, 22 December 2016

Unless the individual is a sexual deviant who likes sex with people they don't know, these numbers are the minimum necessary for the individual in question to give 100% consent to a particular sex act or gesture of affection. As noted before, sex and romance are not associated in a child's mind. The numbers given here are the applicable value, not the romance value.

This guide lists the lowest un-modified score in the primary relationship stat necessary to gain your partner's consent, but this is only in cases where the person you are performing this sex act with was not even thinking about doing this sex act before you brought it up. It is an entirely different story if they are the ones who initiate a sex act. Anyone can initiate a sex act with you even if your relationship score with them in the appropriate area is 0. Also, even if you have 100% scores in your relationship with a person in the appropriate area, there are still conditions under witch you can have sex with them and they will consider it rape. These scores assume that you are talking them into sex in a friendly and calm way while making a good connection with them.

NOTE: This only applies to private sex between only the two of you with the partner you are performing these sex acts on. Observed sex acts of the mild level and higher is modified by their preference or distaste for exhibitionism. There is also a different score for permitting sex acts done to another that the person you have the score with feels responsible for. This is known as a surrogate consent score, witch can vary wildly as well and operates on trust normally for benign and dismissable acts, and with a modifier that is usually positive for the higher level acts, often taking hard-core and even moderate acts well above 100. (default is +20 per level above dismissable, so +20 for mild, +40 for moderate, +60 for hard-core, +80 for fetish, and +100 for rape. Yes, there is a surrogate sex score for rape, and conditions that will lower it below your score with them will cause them to consent to you raping a person in their charge.)

Benign sex acts

Activities that can easily be construed as non-sexual and dismissed both by the person the act is being performed on and also by any on-lookers. It only counts as a sex act because the person performing it gets aroused by it.

Note: Platonic or familial love scores can be substituted for romantic love scores in this category.

  • Hold their hand:(5)
  • Play with their hair:(8)
  • Hugging (8)
  • Pick them up off the ground:(10)
  • Have them sit in your lap:(12)
  • Hold possessively(12)
  • Kiss cheeks or forehead:(15)
  • Kiss their hand(20)

Dismissable sex acts

Activities that can just as easily be taken as sexual or non-sexual. If the person this act is being performed on takes it as non-sexual, it is regarded as 10 points lower than what is listed and familial love can be substituted for romantic love. (familal love by itself does not act as a substitute if they interpret the act as sexual)

  • Be shirtless around them:(20)
  • See them in their pajamas:(20)
  • Oggle their clothed groin or breasts:(25)
  • Press into breasts while hugging:(25)
  • Convince a male to go shirtless around you:(25)
  • Fondle fully clothed ass while hugging or other such activity:(30)
  • Change cloths in presence of each other, not going naked (30)
  • Make sexually charged or sexually related banter with each other(30)
  • Wear only shirt and underwear around them(35)
  • Convince a pre-pubescent girl to go shirtless around you(35)
  • Fondle girl's ass under her skirt(40)
  • "Secretly" dry-hump leg, hip, or ass (either direction)(40)
  • Same gender change clothes while exposing bare genitals in presence of each other (must be regarded as non-sexual): (45/20)* (Note: Score differs depending on whether or not there is an existing romance score. 20 if romance score is zero, 45 if there is an existing romance score, 35 if there is a romance score but the act is regarded as non-sexual.)
  • Opposite gender change cloths while exposing bare genitals in presence of each other (must be regarded as non-sexual):(50)* (40 after it is regarded as non-sexual.)

Mild sex acts

Acts that most would consider inappropriate unless you are in a romantic relationship, but most would not actually consider to be "sex." No other score may be substituted for romantic love except via the submission method.

  • Kiss on lips (adult) (30) (Note: Can be regarded as non-sexual in some families and have platonic love points substitute if raised in this way.)
  • French Kiss (adult) (40)
  • Grope breasts and/or genitals (50 X body shame)
  • Change cloths, including underwear, in the same space as each other (50 X body shame)
  • Use toilet with other present in bathroom(55 X body shame)
  • Reference or discuss moderate or hard-core sex with each other(55)
  • Kiss on lips (child) (55, romance only)
  • Sexting (60)
  • Crotch to crotch clothed dry-humping(60)
  • Show privates to each other for no reason other than to just look(60 X body shame)
  • Be casually naked with one another(60 X body shame)
  • Suddenly kiss, grope, dry-hump, or take off cloths without prior consent or giving them a chance to object: (80 adult, 40 child)
  • French Kiss (child) (80, romance and trust both)

Moderate sex acts

Sex acts that most would consider sex, but would not get the "hard-core" label if filmed and put on a porn site.

  • Touch each other's bare genitals with hand(65 X body shame)
  • Masturbate partner to orgasm(67)
  • Touch partner beneath cloths or perform oral sex on them without prior consent or chance to object: (70)
  • Ejaculate on partner's body, not near an orifice (adult)(70)
  • Receive oral sex(70)
  • Ejaculate on child partner's male or female genitals, no prior concept of sex (70)
  • Rub bare genitals together(75)
  • Give oral sex(80)
  • Ejaculate on female partner's vulva (adult or 10-14 year old child who knows about sex)(80)* Will not consent if worried about and avoiding pregnancy
  • Ejaculate on child partner's body (80)
  • Ejaculate on child partner's face (90)
  • Ejaculate on child partner who did not know an ejaculation was going to happen: (80 or 110, 110 if they interpret it as pee)
  • Suddenly begin masturbating partner under cloths without giving them a chance to object: (95 Adult, body shame for child)
  • Ejaculate on partner or have partner perform oral sex without prior consent or chance to object: (110)
  • Oral sex with child without giving them chance to consent: (140)

Hard-core sex acts

Sex acts that involve semen and/or the penis going into a vagina or anus

  • Girl on girl homosexual sex with child: (60 X body shame)
  • Vaginal sex with girl with no prior concept of sex or under 10 years of age: (70)
  • All homosexual sex(80)
  • Pushing semen from elsewhere into vagina with fingers(80)* Will not consent if worried about and avoiding pregnancy
  • Vaginal sex with condom(85, 60 for sex conscious girl under 15, 80 if not sex conscious.)
  • Ejaculate into spread open vagina, no insertion(85)* Will not consent if worried about and avoiding pregnancy. -10 for children.
  • Bare-back vaginal sex, promising to pull out(90, 85 for children)
  • Bare-back vaginal sex, finishing inside (adult)(95)* Will not consent if worried about and avoiding pregnancy
  • Fetish or taboo sex that does not align with partner's interests(100)* Also requires that the partner be submissive or persuadable with a reasoned argument or appeal.
  • Blitz: (110) Having sex with your partner without giving them the chance to consent or reject. (may differ depending on partner and situation, no modifier should ever be listed on character profiles)
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