Smooth Operator/Male/female ratio discussion

1 to 160

As discussed above, males in this scenario would be more or less trained and expected by society to have sex with a large number of willing females. They, however, would be considered precious by the society to an extreme degree and all laws would be set up to favor males carrying out the job of impregnating females. When it comes to child rearing, mothers of boys would likely be expected to train these values into their sons, and this would likely include offering themselves and any sisters sexually to the boy as well, and this would be going on before he would even be capable of producing sperm. There would still be some variation in this in terms of individual parenting, that kind of approach would not be pressured, but if that was going on then most of society would probably see that as being the correct course of action in order to raise the boy to do what he was going to have to be doing.

Also, monogomous marriage would no longer be a practice. The fathers of all children would not be expected to be present and all mothers would be single.

The frequency of boys, meanwhile, would be so extraordinarily low that it's likely there would be only 1 of them per grade level in any given school, if even that. Very few girls will have brothers, and as mentioned above their father would be absent. As such, unless they learned about it from their mother or school or a TV program, a girl would likely have no idea penises even existed.

For another thing, older buildings would still have normal male and female bathrooms, but newer constructions would likely have the boy's bathroom consisting of only a single toilet, and in a building as large as a school building there would be fewer of them. And, yes, their would still be boy's bathrooms. As mentioned before, boys would be held in very high regard sexually, much the same as we regard girls nowdays. Nowdays, the reason women are regarded with sensitivity, more likely to be seen as the innocent party in any case of sexual wrongdoings, and often given lighter prison sentences in all cases, is because women are the reproductive bottle neck. If men get killed, it's no big deal for the population. 1 man can impregnate multiple women. If a woman gets killed though, that actually decreases the population for future generations. If its 1 male to 160 women, it becomes reversed. The male becomes the reproductive bottle neck at that kind of extreme. As such, the male would be given all the same kinds of prefferential treatment women are given today, if not more so. (almost certainly more so in regards to courtship and such.)

At any rate, there is likely to be only 1 male restroom with a single toilet in it an no urinal for every 5 female restrooms. Also, the restroom would most likely be a consideration for the boy's privacy, and there would be zero complaint if he decides he doesn't want to go the distance to the male restroom or can't find where it's located and decides to use the women's restroom.

Also, any invitation of more than one reproductive age male to an informal gathering would be seen as an invitation for some sort of sex to be going on, it would be considered an exceedingly rare and unlikely occurence to have 3 males under the same roof unless it's an institutional-scale building (such as a work office or a school)

Finally, although it may be against the law on the books, a boy who rapes a girl likely won't even get prison time. The most he's likely to get is a stern talking to and maybe some more restrictions on his movements. Also, the subject of the mother spanking the rabbit boy for playing with the cheetah girl in the closet would likely never go down that way at this ratio. He would likely not even be afraid of anyone finding out, and the most his mother may say to him is to at least have a little more self respect and not to do anything like that so easily. (It would be boys in this society who are expected to be sexually responsible.)

1 to 80

This shift doubles the rate of males appearing, but it really doesn't shift things all that much from the scenario above of 1 to 160. About the only thing that would really change is that, in the case of something like a child's birthday party, it wouldn't be considered that absurd for there to be multiple boys at the party, especially if most or all of them are pre-pubescent. Boys would be highly regarded by society, and as such it would be the case where any boy a girl happens to know would get an invitation. It would actually probably be expected of Gabby, if she wanted to act cool, to invite every boy she was brave enough to invite. As such, something like an elementary school birthday party is exactly the sort of place you would expect to see an unusual aggregation of boys in a relatively small space.

Aside from that, almost everything else from the 1 to 160 section still applies, except that it's now almost a gurante there will be at least 1 if not 2 or, in rare cases, 3 boys per grade level in a school.

1 to 40

Not too much change here, but it is probably somewhere around here that the rabbit boy who was sexually playing with the cheetah girl might get a somewhat harsher reaction from his mother. The harsh spanking described would still be seen as overkill, but she would still be quite mad. If anyone gets spanked though, it's still more likely to be the girl than the boy. Although, if the mother is the type to take her son's sexual promescuity that seriously she could still conceivably do it and her being like that would be the reason why the boy is afraid of the parents being told. (In other words, the scenario could go down exactly as written with the only difference being that when the girl is taken home it's not because the mother's concerned about her but because she wants to give the girl a stern talking to but couldn't bring herself to do it at the party after seeing what she just saw that mother doing to her son.)

Also, it is probably around here that an adult man raping a child might be seen as something prison worthy. Jordan raping a child though would get away with it. Also, the adult man raping an adult woman would be very much a case-by-case basis. He might or might not see prison time depending on how brutal it was. If it's a case of date-rape or her changing her mind part way through it, it would be disregarded. Also, the adult man would be considered just fine having consensual sex with a child.

Also, in regards to restrooms, at around this point there will be 1 male restroom per female restroom in newer construction buildings. It will still be a single toilet and no urinal. At this point, it would be considered inappropriate for the boy to go into the girl's restroom.

In regards to the standards for raising a boy in terms of his sex education, this is around the point where starting him by having PIV sex before he's able to produce semen would go from the standard to unusual but largely accepted.

1 to 20

Someone Jordan's age forcing a child to have sex with him would probably get him at least a visit from the police at this point, but not prison time. The fact that he's young and adapting to his hormones would be taken into consideration, and it likely wouldn't even be on his criminal record. In the case of an adult though, most of the things above would still apply but he would be treated a little more harshly by society for date rape.

This is the earliest point where marriage may still be something that's practiced. However, monogamy would be considered very retrograde and non-productive to society and it would be encouraged for any marriage to be polygamous, with the husband also still being free to have affairs.

It's also at this point that there is 1, maybe 2, boys per class per grade level.

There is a chance some pre-pubescent girls who have fathers in the house might have seen their father's penis, but for the most part it would be uncommon for girls below age 9 to know what a penis is or that boys are different down there.

1 to 10

This is probably the point where the male population is large enough that they might think of seriously prossecuting all cases of male on female rape, especially the rape of minors. However, due to the youth consideration mentioned in the previous 1 to 40 category, a youth around Jordan's age would still get special consideration. Society would still be quite displeased with him and he's likely to be treated very negatively by everyone afterwards, but he's not likely to see jail time. He will likely still go to court though, and if found guilty he would have to do some kind of community service. It's just not likely to result in jail time.

It's also around this point that male restrooms in newer buildings might be constructed in the same way as they are today, however they are likely to be less frequent in location, perhaps 1 male restroom for every 2 female restrooms in something like a school building.

Marriage will be a practice at this point, but most marriages would likely be polygamous.

It is around here a fair number of girls who are pre-pubescent may have heard boys are different down there before they have learned anything from sex ed. It would not be considered common knowledge, but around 30-50% of girls below 9 may know about boys having a penis and have a rough description of what it is shaped like, or may have seen a picture. (a few will know because they saw their brother's or their father's)

For a boy's sexual education, it is likely around this point it would be considered inappropriate for the mother to have sex with their own pre-pubescent son. However, after he can produce semen, hands-on sex education would likely be seen as unusual but not an unacceptable method, and his first sexual experience will likely be either with a family member or a girl from the neighborhood that his mother arranged for. Either way, he's likely to have his first sexual experience a matter of weeks or days after his first wet dream.

1 to 5

Society at this ratio would not have any kind of large changes to how they regard sex, but males would be regarded as somewhat more valuable and desirable sexually. However, it would not be to such an extreme that every single boy would have every girl in the room itching to get with him. This is the point where the women could be more choosy and pass over a guy who is rude or who looks ugly. This is also the point where Jordan in the story would actually have it as something of an accomplishment still that he's able to have sex with all these girls.

This is the point where about the only real changes to society that would be note worthy are exactly the things that is written up in the current "society" section on the main info page. It is around here that monogomous relationships would be considered still something of a norm, but polygyny would not be uncommon and the male having some affairs would be largely forgiven.

In regards to girls' awareness of what a penis is, it's actually right around here that it's largely expected most girls, even if they are pre-pubescent, should be aware that boys and girls are different down there. There would be some though, a much larger proportion than IRL, that might not know.

In regards to boy's sex education, it will be a fair bit more liberal than today's and even boys Jordan's age would be encouraged to go out and have sex. However, the mother or father actually encouraging some hands-on sexual education would likely be frowned upon by society.

Discussion

Alrighty wooh quite a read, so, I've read them all and I love the feedback you guys have given me and detailed options Jemini has worked hard on. The one I like most and I would think still fit the best is the "1-40", I will have to change and edit a few paths like the rabbit mother disciplining her child as i did establish story paths before my synopsis which was the fault of my indecisiveness when I posted the story in another location, totally my bad. I would appreciate if you guys continued pointing out certain things to me to look over again that might need edits so that it smooths out the cracks in the story, I am open to you guys editing them but only if you feel like it, you guys have helped a lot already.

@Claws61821 - You are very good with numbers, fallowing your example from the other page I tried to average how many males would be in each school.

"ratio of 1:30, that gives you 3-5 boys per grade per school; call it 18-30 boys total for an elementary school, 9-15 for a middle school, and 12-20 for a highschool. That's out of 600-900, 300-450, and 400-600 students, respectively. Claws61821"

For "1-40", roughly I would think 0-1 boy per class out of 30

so girls would see boys at school but chances of having a class with just one is 50/50

Elementary 14-22 out of 600-900

Since they are young the boys probably don't get swarmed as badly by girls

Middle School 7-11 out of 300-450

As hormones start to kick in things probably start to change as girls start to take more interest in boys, trying to single them out for one on one time.

High School 9-14 out of 400-600

What boy is gonna have time to study?

If you have time to look at it I would appreciate it.

Jemini

Ok, so, if it's 1 to 40 you're going with, there are a few more issues to keep in mind.

1. It's a state where marriage is not a standard at all, so no girl lives with her father in the house, and this means most girls will have never seen a penis before in their life unless they have a brother.

2. This is the level where it would be a little unusual for Jordan to have had sex before he was able to produce semen, but he has almost certainly lost his virginity to a family member after his first wet dream. So, it's kinda important for the story to know whether that was with his mother or his sister. It would likely be the most simple to say it was with his mother and absolutely nothing sexual has been done with his sister yet in order to minimize changes that need to happen, and this story might be taking place a day or two after Jordan's sex ed after his first nocturnal ejaculation. (In fact, it might be appropriate to make a "day 0" prequil to the story where Jordan getting the talk and loosing his virginity to his mother is depicted.)

3. Girls, such as the bunny girl in the bathroom, would likely have a much bigger reaction to Jordan being a boy. At 1 to 40, they would be able to recognize that he's a boy and not a girl. (If it was 1 to 160, a girl below a certain age might not even know the difference between boys and girls by external appearances and assume boys are just stockier built girls.) So, the bunny girl would have probably caught on by Jordan's voice he was a boy, but that would have meant a lot more in her situation. Having some strange older boy talking to her would be the same as the hot girl at the party coming up to the nerdy boy with acne at the college/high school level party.

4. Boys are probably expected to get sex ed at home, but will have it offered at school separate from girls with an opt-out option for boys who already know, and/or an opt-in for the boys to actually get a hands-on experience during their at-school sex-ed. (This could actually replace the day 0 thing with the mother, since the day 1 is a Saturday he could do it for the first time at school the previous Friday.)

5. Girls would most certainly get their sex-ed at school, and it might even be a standard to keep them more ignorant to sex in order to keep them from going after boys too hard until they are of reproductive age. During their sex-ed, it would likely be 80% sexual ethics telling them to respect boys' boundaries with 20% describing the mechanics and how this is how babies are made. Afterward, with parent's permission, girls who are known to be on the calm end and respectful may be offered the chance to participate in the hands-on portion of the boy's sex ed in order to give a close-age partner for their first experience. (It's more likely they would be sent home with a sealed envelope that tells the parents this is an option for them, but it's expected for the parents to make the decision on whether or not this offer even makes it to their daughter and gives them the chance to say their piece before saying yes or no.) How often said girl is seen together with the boy who is going to receive the sex ed (and they likely would have it 1 boy at a time if there is a hands-on portion) is also likely to be taken into consideration.