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{{EmiliaContacts |says=Okay, let's talk more about rules. You two explained pretty well what they are, but what exactly happens if we break the rules?}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=So what exactly happens if we break the rules?}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Riiight, this is where things get complicated…<br>First of all, we don't actually have any evidence of any punishment taking place. Sure, we've heard stories and rumors, but we have no first-hand experience.}}
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Riiight, this is where things get complicated… <br><br>First of all, the gods only intervene in case of a conflict, or in other words, when someone feels like their rights have been violated, so to speak. If not, the ''"no harm, no foul"'' rule speaks true, and no punishment will take place. <br><br>Second . . . We don't actually have any evidence of any punishment taking place. Sure, we've heard stories and rumors, but we have no first-hand experience.}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=…So does that mean that the punishments aren't actually true?}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=…So does that mean that the punishments aren't actually true?}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=*giggle* Who knows~ ?<br>The biggest reason why we have no experience is because we've never broken any rules! We're good, good girls. Besides, I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to test the patience of gods…}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=*giggle* Who knows~ ? The biggest reason why we have no experience is because we've never broken any rules! We're good, good girls. Besides, I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to test the patience of gods…}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Yeah, me neither… N-not that I actually believe in any of this superstitious nonsense… I just follow the rules because it makes playing this game all the more fun.}}
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Yeah, me neither… N-not that I actually believe in any of this superstitious nonsense… I just follow the rules because it makes playing this game all the more fun.}}
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{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Just admit it! <span style="font-size:150%">♪</span><br>There's truth to these old legends and you know it!}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Just admit it! <span style="font-size:150%">♪</span><br>There's truth to these old legends and you know it!}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Well, it doesn't matter to me anyway, as I intend to follow them.}}
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=I'm not a big believer … and I'd rather not feed her lies and fear-monger.}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=I would never dare to break them either…<br>But, for the sake of argument, let's assume that the gods, the legends, and the punishment are one hundred percent real…}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=It's not fear-mongering! The rules, the gods, and the punishments … they are all real!}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Heidi said things get a little complicated, and she wasn't kidding. You see, there are no clear rules for gods regarding how they punish us. It sounds a little counter-productive at face value because why have set rules if there aren't set punishments? The problem is that the two spirits we share this land with are egoistical beings with their own flawed personalities, weaknesses and such . . . and then there's the problem with each and every situation being different from another. Is it your first offense or your tenth? Is it a mild offense, or did you break the strictest rule possible? These are all factors to be considered, and there's not one set punishment that can be applied to all situations. However, there are some general trends regarding what they do to us if we break the rules.<br>Almost all punishments directed at us are laid out by Kostikki, as he does not like being teased or provoked. The most typical punishment for us is his curse, which turns whatever mark you're currently wearing into a black variant of it. Alternatively, if you're not currently wearing a mark but break the rules anyway, you will get a black version of whichever mark you last wore.}}
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=How do you know it for sure?}}
 
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Weeeellll… Like you just said before… There are stories and rumors…}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=So wait…<br>Black star means you're a bad girl who needs to be punished. To be forced to wear one is pretty extreme… I mean, some stranger could even kidnap us, could they not?}}
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=But how do you know they're "real" stories, and not just made-up ones?}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Yeah, it is extreme. Rules indeed go flying out of the window once you're discovered with a black star. They can do whatever they want, but only for as long as the black star is visible. Once it disappears, once you've been punished, you're free to go.}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=L-let's just assume they are all true…}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=But couldn't you just remove or hide it then?}}
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=*sigh* I guess it doesn't hurt to tell, especially since you're curious and all…}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=It won't work. It will be like a tattoo, and you can't wash it off. No amount of soap or rubbing alcohol will help. Hide it with a bandage? It'll magically move its place elsewhere, like in the middle of your cheek or forehead.}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=What are these stories and rumors then?}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=…Yikes…<br>…And how long are you forced to wear one then?}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Well, the stories of us Star-Bearers being punished are rare. It's not that the rule-breaking doesn't occur; it's just that the people who break them are typically too ashamed to admit it, so it remains a secret.}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Right, this is where the punishments differ. <br><br>In mild cases, they can be washed right off, which basically means that you're being warned for doing something wrong. It's Kostikki's way of telling us to "cut it out, or else". Sometimes Lauhatar will also punish or warn us in this way, and fortunately for us, it's the most she'll ever do to us. In a similar way, it's her way of saying "be careful, or you'll get in trouble".<br><br>But then, maybe you didn't heed the warnings, or you broke a more strict rule; now we're talking about the kind of star you can't simply just wash off or hide. This punishment is typically timed, which means that you might have to wear it for one day straight. Of course, if you want to get rid of it faster, you just have to get punished. This can happen even unwillingly or willingly. Find someone you can trust and tell him you've been a bad girl. It should still be effective if you're not known to be a troublemaker. If you are, well . . . tough luck. <br><br>Regarding this, the repeated and stricter violations typically just increase the length of the punishment, but there is also one significant exception: sometimes Kostikki can only be truly satisfied if the one you wronged gets his justice over you. Say, for example, you wear a pink star and some gentleman you find physically unattractive or even repulsive approaches you . . . say, you tell him something rude while refusing him, like "as if I'd ever do it with an ugly fatass like you". Not very nice, right!? That would make the punishment such that you HAVE to serve the guy you just insulted to get rid of the star immediately. Otherwise, you'd have to either carry the star for a REALLY long time or be punished by someone else for a little bit more than usual. <br><br>Lastly, there's a little case of Kostikki interpreting your actions as you "asking" to be punished. If you break the rules with the sole purpose of wanting to get into trouble, he will gladly answer. He won't be angry, but he'll punish you nonetheless because it's exactly what you want. He may even look at you more favorably if you do that. In these cases, you can just wash the star off when you want, but he'll paint it on you to save you time.<br><br>In nutshell, it all depends on the situation.}}
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=<span style="font-size:75%">I can't believe you actually buy that argument…</span>}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=Well, I suppose it makes sense for the gods to judge us on a case-by-case basis.<br>How strict are the rules then? Like, how likely are we to get punished?}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=One such story comes from my granny. Back when she was young, she knew a girl who quit wearing the star after she got punished once for breaking the rules far too many times. It freaked her out, she tried to hide it and pleaded for forgiveness, but her violation had been severe. When the locals finally caught up to her, she was taught the error of her ways. Apparently, it left such a scar on her that she decided to stay away from the whole game.}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Like we said, we don't know. Personally, I'm not even sure if these rules are real…}}
{{EmiliaEh |says=A-and how exactly was she punished then?}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=They are. Trust me.}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Well, we already told you about the "Black Star" and what it means to wear one. That's how we get punished most of the time, by being forced to wear it.}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=How do you know it for sure?}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=But like, what does the punishment ''actually'' mean?}}
 
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=It means that our lovely clients are allowed to get away with a LOT more than they usually would.}}
 
{{EmiliaEh |says=T-that sounds a little extreme…}}
 
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Yeah, it is extreme. Most rules go flying out of the window once you're discovered with a black star, but only for as long as the black star is visible. Once it disappears, once you've been punished, you're free to go.}}
 
{{EmiliaEh |says=B-but not all rules…?}}
 
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Well, the rules about the secrecy of this game still apply, for example.}}
 
{{EmiliaEh |says=B-but our consent is also part of the rules! Could ''THEY'' violate those rules then?}}
 
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=''"The one who breaks the rules first must also accept to have their rules violated"'', or something like that.}}
 
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Yeah, I mean . . . It sounds terribly unfair, doesn't it? But the fact remains that you violated someone's rights in this game first. Even if you don't believe in this stuff, you need to take responsibility for that.}}
 
{{EmiliaEh |thinks=That's so scary … but maybe I'm overreacting a little. If I don't break the rules, I won't get punished…<br>…And that's assuming this is real … and that I'm even going to participate in this game … which I probably might not…}}
 
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Besides, punishments always start off mild and then ramp up, but you'll have to consider that even the mild punishments can turn brutal if you're unlucky.}}
 
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=…Or lucky, if you're into that shit.<br>*giggle* Maybe you are? Is that why you're asking so many questions? I won't judge~ !}}
 
{{EmiliaContacts |says=As if! I'm just asking to be cautious! <br>How strict are the rules then?}}
 
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=It all depends on how strict the punishment you're receiving is, and on which one of the gods is punishing you. In mild cases, you will receive a black star - or another black marking - that can be washed right off, which basically means that you're being warned for doing something wrong. It's Kostikki's way of telling us to "cut it out, or else". Sometimes Lauhatar will also punish or warn us in this way, and fortunately for us, it's the most she'll ever do to us. In a similar way, it's her way of saying "be careful, or you'll get in trouble". <br><br>But then, maybe you didn't heed the warnings, or you broke a more strict rule; now Kostikki has taken attention, and he does not like to have his patience tested. He will curse you with the kind of star you can't simply wash off, and now you're stuck with it.}}
 
{{EmiliaContacts |says=…Yikes…<br>So, how to get rid of it then?}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Weeeellll… Like I've said before… I've heard stories…}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Well, the punishments are usually timed, meaning you might have to wear it for one day straight, for example. It could also be just an hour, or maybe even two days. Again, it depends on your violation. The only to get rid of it faster is by actually getting punished, which, as you can imagine, happens when you're discovered. My tip, find someone you can trust and tell him you've been a bad girl. It should still be effective if you're not known to be a troublemaker. If you are, well . . . tough luck.}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=But how do you know they're "real" stories, and not just made-up ones?}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=But can't you just hide it then? Or wash it off like you can with the normal markings?}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=L-let's just assume they are all true…}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Hiding it to avoid being punished doesn't work. If you try, more time will only be added to your punishment, meaning you'll have to wear it for an even longer time now. Additionally, Kostikki may move the tattoo around if you keep trying anyway. <br><br>Lastly, there's a little case of Kostikki interpreting your actions as you "asking" to be punished. If you break the rules with the sole purpose of wanting to get into trouble, he will gladly answer. He won't be angry, but he'll punish you nonetheless because it's exactly what you want. He may even look at you more favorably if you do that.}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Fine…<br>Well, assuming they are true, they are somewhat strict. With rules where leeway is allowed, you may not be even be warned the first time around, but with clear violations, you will ALWAYS be warned ''at the very least''! Punishments will start off mild and then ramp up, but you'll have to consider that even the mild punishments can turn brutal if you're unlucky.}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=You said "or another black marking" a minute ago, so does that mean we can be punished with black suits too? What does that mean? And does a black marking ''seriously'' mean they can do anything they want?}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=…Or lucky, if you're into that shit.<br>*giggle* Maybe you are? Is that why you're asking? I won't judge~ !}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Well, like I said earlier, the secrets of this game must be protected from outsiders, and no punishment can be so severe as to violate that rule. The only other general rule is that the punishment ''MUST'' stop once the black marking is removed by Kostikki!}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=I don't think I am into being punished, to be perfectly honest…<br>So far, we've only talked about the black star though. What's the deal with the black suits?}}
{{MilkaLewd |says=…Except, of course, you happen to be enjoying the punishment you're receiving…}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=<span style="font-size:150%; color: #000000">'''♢'''</span> First of all, with the black diamond, there's not much of a difference. The only real difference is that it'll announce that you're a pervert on top of being a bad girl who needs to be punished. A double whammy! The punishments might be a little shorter than normal as Kostikki always appreciates a pervert, but that also means that even a slight misdemeanor might get you into hot water. Still, shouldn't be a problem as long as you just follow the rules to the T.<br><span style="font-size:150%; color: #000000">'''♡'''</span> With the black heart, things get very, very complicated indeed. There are two problems here. Firstly, punishments are meant to be temporary, while the heart is all about long-term commitment. Secondly, there aren't that many rules you play under while wearing a heart anyway! Of course, it IS still theoretically possible for there to be a black heart, but how would you even interpret it? Like, does it mean you literally have to become a girlfriend of the first guy who asks you out or what? It's not something you're likely to be punished with, ever, even if you break the strictest of rules. You're more likely to be punished with a star if you break the rules while wearing a heart.<br><span style="font-size:150%; color: #000000">'''♧'''</span><span style="font-size:150%; color: #000000">'''♤'''</span> With the club and the spades you can imagine the harshest of punishments. Like, if they mean the desire to be a slave or a pet, then with a black one, it means you can be made into a slave or a pet, even against your will. We're talking about the kind of punishments that don't just go away after a while, not even after you "learn" your lesson. If Kostikki gets an opportunity to turn your club or spade into a black one, he will revel in that opportunity as much as possible. You might pray to him asking why oh why would he be so harsh when the punishment doesn't fit the crime, and he would just reply by asking, "is that not what you wanted when you wore your spade in the first place?". This is just another reason why we'd generally advise against wearing pink clubs and spares, unless you really, REALLY want to try out something new and extreme. The consequences are equally extreme and terrifying, so be very careful indeed.}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Other than that, you will be punished based on which one of the five markings you wear. This will almost always be the black star, regardless of which marking you wear while you break the rules.}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=From what I hear, Kostikki can never turn a star or a heart into a spade or a club, right?}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=''"Almost always?"'' Can Kostikki ever curse you with a black suit, then?}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Yeah, he can't do that. You can't be punished in the literally harshest way possible unless you specifically "ask for it", as they say.}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Never say never! But generally, you can't be punished in the literally harshest way possible unless you specifically "ask for it", as they say. I'll try to explain what the black suits mean anyway, as it's important to know. <br><br><span style="font-size:150%; color: #000000">★</span> But first, the black star. Vanilla is the flavor here. You will typically be punished by simply having sex; getting fucked, giving or receiving oral, or being groped and fingered. Both spanking and anal are also on the menu, and so is being tied up. It's all standard stuff you'll probably be doing with boys anyway if you end up wearing a normal star, with the only difference being that they will not have to ask for permission before they do you! <br><br><span style="font-size:150%; color: #000000">'''♢'''</span> Admittedly, there's not much of a difference with the black diamond. The only real difference is that you're a pervert on top of being a bad girl who needs to be punished. A double whammy! It's like telling everyone you ''want'' to and ''like'' to be punished. <br><br><span style="font-size:150%; color: #000000">'''♡'''</span> With the black heart, things get very, very complicated indeed. There are two problems here. Firstly, punishments are meant to be temporary, while the heart is all about long-term commitment. Secondly, there aren't that many rules you play under while wearing a heart anyway! Of course, it IS still theoretically possible for there to be a black heart, but how would you even interpret it? Like, does it mean you literally have to become the girlfriend of the first guy who asks you out or what? It's not something you're likely to be punished with, even if you break the strictest of rules. You're more likely to be punished with a star if you break the rules while wearing a heart. <br><br><span style="font-size:150%; color: #000000">'''♤♧'''</span> And finally, with you can imagine the harshest of punishments. Since the club and the spades signal the desire to be a slave or a pet, and a desire to receive orders, then with a black one . . . Do I even need to spell it out? You will receive orders, and you must follow them. You will do everything you're told. Nothing Heidi told about the pink star and consent means anything anymore. The black spades and a club ARE a "free use", "rape me", or a "have your way with me" sign to take advantage of as you please!}}


{{EmiliaContacts |thinks=That's a huge relief. I can't even think what I would do if I was literally forced to wear a black spade tattoo I couldn't remove no matter what I did…}}
{{EmiliaContacts |thinks=It sure is a massive relief that the suits are off the standard punishment table, unless you "ask for it", as they say. I can't even think what I would do if I was literally forced to wear a black spade tattoo I couldn't remove no matter what I did…}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=Also, it does indeed sound like all these punishments that are directed at the Star-Bearers are by Kostikki, but what about those who took advantage of Star-Bearers?}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=Also, it kinda sounds like all these punishments that are directed at the Star-Bearers are by Kostikki, but what about those who took advantage of Star-Bearers?}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Those punishments are even more complicated. Kostikki does want to corrupt us, but there are still limits to what even he would want. In the end, what he wants is pleasure for all parties. If we scream, cry, and get depressed and suicidal the moment we experience some uncomfortable sex . . . well, that wouldn't make Kostikki happy! Physical violence for him is a big no-no, for example. This is why he CAN punish those who would dare to hurt us and protect us from the most extreme of harm.<br><br>That being said, most of these punishments are handed over by Lauhatar. She wants us to be free and feel sexually liberated for our sacrifice of trying to appease Kostikki, keep him happy and keep him satisfied. If someone tries to disrupt that balance, she will get mad. Like, really mad. Scarily mad. Insanely mad. I can't even think of a superlative to describe how mad she would get.<br>I myself said that she's nearly not as strong as Kostikki is, but to say that she's weak is a bit of a misconception. Her curses are versatile, long-lasting, and most importantly, strong, even fatal.<br>She has no real rules on standards on how to punish those who she deems worthy of her wrath, as she is known to be a lot more fickle than Kostikki. A lot more emotional too. She tends to use a lot of imagination with her punishments too. Maybe a man who has wronged us falls from a boat on a fishing trip and gets bitten in his dick by a lake-dwelling pike? Maybe a tree falls over them, and they break an arm? Maybe a lightning strike leaves them injured, or even a car crash? Those things can turn fatal, you know…<br>Of course, there are also more traditional curses. One thing she's said to love is to turn the men who wrong us permanently flaccid. You know what that means? It means they can no longer get ''IT'' up! Or maybe she'll steal their testicles, I don't know. I'm sure not even she knows! Like I said, she's fickle and very imaginative!}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Those punishments are even more complicated. Kostikki does want to corrupt us, but there are still limits to what even he would want. In the end, what he wants is pleasure for all parties. If we scream, cry, and get depressed and suicidal the moment we experience some uncomfortable sex . . . well, that wouldn't make Kostikki happy! This is why he CAN punish those who would dare to hurt us and protect us from the most extreme of harm.<br><br>That being said, most of such punishments are handed over by Lauhatar. She wants us to be free and feel sexually liberated for our sacrifice of trying to appease Kostikki while also keeping him happy and satisfied. If someone tries to disrupt that balance, she will get mad. Like, really mad. Scarily mad. Insanely mad. I can't even think of a superlative to describe how mad she would get. <br><br>I myself said that she's nearly not as strong as Kostikki, but to say she's weak is a bit of a misconception. Her curses are versatile, long-lasting, and most importantly, strong, even fatal. She's a lot more fickle emotional too, and tends to use a lot of imagination with her punishments. Maybe a man who has wronged us falls from a boat on a fishing trip and gets bitten in his dick by a lake-dwelling pike? Maybe a tree falls over them, and they break an arm? Maybe a lightning strike leaves them injured, or even a car crash? Those things can turn fatal, you know…}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=Well, it's a good thing you girls don't have to worry too much about facing ''her'' wrath then, huh? She sounds scarier than Kostikki in her own way.}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=Well, it's a good thing you girls don't have to worry too much about facing ''her'' wrath then, huh? She sounds scarier than Kostikki in her own way.}}
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{{EmiliaContacts |says=One thing that really puzzles me about all of this though…<br>What incentive is there for anyone to punish us on Kostikki's behalf then?}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=One thing that really puzzles me about all of this though…<br>What incentive is there for anyone to punish us on Kostikki's behalf then?}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=An excellent question, little miss Björnquist!<br>It's because they fear Kostikki. As explained, Kostikki punishes us if he doesn't get his way with us. However, he can't under normal circumstances punish us himself, not unless he gets mad. Displeasing him is easy, but getting him mad isn't. That's fortunately a good thing, as you DO NOT want him to get mad.}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=An excellent question, little miss Björnquist! <br><br>It's because they fear Kostikki and what he could do if his will is not fulfilled. As you heard from the story, he can play sexual pranks on everyone, possess individual villagers, and even control their minds on a large scale to do his bidding and such last. All of these are things he might resort to if his will is not fulfilled. He did it in the past, and he might do it again. <br><br>People generally don't want their bodies taken over by perverted mountain gods, as you can imagine, so they listen to him. Having your brains poked and altered by him isn't something people aren't too keen on either. Don't think this can happen just to men either; Kostikki might even brainwash you into being a sex-crazed nymphomaniac!}}
 
{{EmiliaContacts |says=S-so, what happens if he gets mad?}}
 
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=As you heard from the story, he can do little sexual pranks first, possess individual villagers next, and control their minds on a large scale to do his bidding and such last. All of these are things he only resorts to if nobody else is willing to do his bidding. People don't generally want their bodies to be taken over by perverted mountain gods, don't you think? Having your brains poked and altered by him isn't something people aren't too keen on either. Don't think this can happen just to men either; Kostikki might even brainwash you into being a sex-crazed nymphomaniac!}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Wouldn't have to do that to you as you're already a fucking perverted nympho.}}
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Wouldn't have to do that to you as you're already a fucking perverted nympho.}}
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{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=*giggle*}}
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=*giggle*}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Anyway, as you know from the story I told you, this is essentially what happened back in the days, which is the reason why Lauhatar suggested having young sacrifices for him in the first place. This is still a scenario that we all want to avoid as a community, but it's not actually the worst-case scenario. The worst case is that his influence starts to grow and that he can just gain hold of an even larger population beyond just this tiny village and its immediate surroundings. He's easy to contain here, but imagine him having influence over a city the size of Stockholm, or even the entire Scandinavia? What if he demands just more and more in his anger and eventually even condones rape? What happens when the hordes of brainwashed zombies rape women and children in masses?}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=The point is nobody wants to provoke his anger, not the people who rely on our "services", not even the people who claim to serve him. That's why, when he marks someone as a subject for punishment, people tend to listen and obey.}}
 
{{EmiliaContacts |says=He couldn't seriously do something like that though?}}
 
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Yeah, probably not, but he is still a force to be feared.<br>The point is, nobody wants to provoke his anger, not the people who rely on our "services", not even the people who claim to serve him. That's why, when he marks someone as a subject for punishment, people tend to listen and obey.}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=Hmmmm… Okay… I'm starting to understand why it really, REALLY is important to follow the rules then.}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=Hmmmm… Okay… I'm starting to understand why it really, REALLY is important to follow the rules then.}}
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{{EmiliaContacts |thinks=…Although admittedly, all this still sounds unbelievable. If it is true, then yeah, rules MUST be followed. If not, well . . . the rules are sensible, so they should be followed anyway.}}
{{EmiliaContacts |thinks=…Although admittedly, all this still sounds unbelievable. If it is true, then yeah, rules MUST be followed. If not, well . . . the rules are sensible, so they should be followed anyway.}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=All of this kind of makes me wonder how long one must do this then.<br>Like, you're both Star-Bearers. Can you just quit being one if you don't like it anymore?}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=All of this also makes me wonder how long one must do this then.<br>Like, you're both Star-Bearers. Can you just quit being one if you don't like it anymore? Are there rules or punishments about that?}}


{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Yep! Wear a star today? Great! Don't wanna do it tomorrow? Also great! Take a break for a year? No problem! You can even quit altogether! No rule says you must stay a Star-Bearer forever if you try it once. It can be a one-time thing or a year-long commitment.}}
{{HeidiStåhlberg |says=Nope! Wear a star today? Great! Don't wanna do it tomorrow? Also great! Take a break for a year? No problem! You can even quit altogether! No rule says you must stay a Star-Bearer forever if you try it once, and nobody's gonna punish you if you quit. It can be a one-time thing or a year-long commitment.}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Only situation where you must be one is if Lauhatar herself chooses you as one, but even then, it should be viewed as an honor, not a burden.<br>Like I said earlier, my granny was chosen as one when she was young. Nobody has been chosen ever since because there hasn't been a need for it, and there's unlikely to be a need for it either, considering how many of us wearing the stars already are. Heidi and I may be the only locals doing it right now - as far as we know anyway - but there are others out there, and there have been others before us as well.}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=The only situation where you must be one is if Lauhatar herself chooses you as one, but even then, it should be viewed as an honor, not a burden.<br><br>Like I said earlier, my granny was chosen as one when she was young. Nobody has been chosen ever since because there hasn't been a need for it, and there's unlikely to be a need for it, considering how many of us willingly wear the stars.}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=You also mentioned Kostikki's influence. The term "area of influence" was also thrown around in the rules. What does it mean, and does it factor into punishments?}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=One final question on punishments: <br>Kostikki and Lauhatar are obviously local spirits, so how far does their influence reach? And how does that factor into punishments?}}


{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Oh, right! I totally ignored that important fact!<br>Since Kostikki is tied to the little mountain the village is next to, he can only influence the surrounding area. I'm not sure how big his area of influence exactly is; twenty or thirty kilometers in circumference, maybe? Obviously, you cannot be cursed by him if you break the rules outside this area. He will know if you ever return here though, so don't go breaking the rules in a neighboring village or a big city just because you think you're safe!<br>Escaping his curse is also possible. You can't remove the star here, but you can wash it off if you decide to leave the village. He will be very pissed by this and curse you again if you return, probably with even a longer curse than last time around.}}
{{MilkaAhlroos |says=Oh, right! I totally ignored that important fact! Since Kostikki is tied to the little mountain the village is next to, he can only influence the surrounding area. Nobody's quite sure exactly how big his area of influence is, but it should reach all the way from the shores of ''Storsjön'' to the Norwegian border, making it a pretty large area. That includes more villages than just this, as you can imagine. It even includes the ski resort…<br><br>Obviously, you cannot be cursed by him if you break the rules outside this area. He will know if you ever return here though, so don't go breaking the rules in a neighboring village or a big city just because you think you're safe! Escaping his curse is also possible. You can't remove a permanent star here, but you can wash it off if you decide to leave the village. He will be very pissed by this and curse you again if you return, probably even more than last time around.}}


{{EmiliaContacts |says=Okay, makes sense. I think that's enough information about rules then.}}
{{EmiliaContacts |says=Okay, makes sense. I think that's enough information about the rules then.}}





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So what exactly happens if we break the rules?


Riiight, this is where things get complicated…

First of all, the gods only intervene in case of a conflict, or in other words, when someone feels like their rights have been violated, so to speak. If not, the "no harm, no foul" rule speaks true, and no punishment will take place.

Second . . . We don't actually have any evidence of any punishment taking place. Sure, we've heard stories and rumors, but we have no first-hand experience.


…So does that mean that the punishments aren't actually true?


*giggle* Who knows~ ? The biggest reason why we have no experience is because we've never broken any rules! We're good, good girls. Besides, I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to test the patience of gods…


Yeah, me neither… N-not that I actually believe in any of this superstitious nonsense… I just follow the rules because it makes playing this game all the more fun.


Just admit it!
There's truth to these old legends and you know it!


I'm not a big believer … and I'd rather not feed her lies and fear-monger.


It's not fear-mongering! The rules, the gods, and the punishments … they are all real!


How do you know it for sure?


Weeeellll… Like you just said before… There are stories and rumors…


But how do you know they're "real" stories, and not just made-up ones?


L-let's just assume they are all true…


*sigh* I guess it doesn't hurt to tell, especially since you're curious and all…


What are these stories and rumors then?


Well, the stories of us Star-Bearers being punished are rare. It's not that the rule-breaking doesn't occur; it's just that the people who break them are typically too ashamed to admit it, so it remains a secret.


I can't believe you actually buy that argument…


One such story comes from my granny. Back when she was young, she knew a girl who quit wearing the star after she got punished once for breaking the rules far too many times. It freaked her out, she tried to hide it and pleaded for forgiveness, but her violation had been severe. When the locals finally caught up to her, she was taught the error of her ways. Apparently, it left such a scar on her that she decided to stay away from the whole game.


A-and how exactly was she punished then?


Well, we already told you about the "Black Star" and what it means to wear one. That's how we get punished most of the time, by being forced to wear it.


But like, what does the punishment actually mean?


It means that our lovely clients are allowed to get away with a LOT more than they usually would.


T-that sounds a little extreme…


Yeah, it is extreme. Most rules go flying out of the window once you're discovered with a black star, but only for as long as the black star is visible. Once it disappears, once you've been punished, you're free to go.


B-but not all rules…?


Well, the rules about the secrecy of this game still apply, for example.


B-but our consent is also part of the rules! Could THEY violate those rules then?


"The one who breaks the rules first must also accept to have their rules violated", or something like that.


Yeah, I mean . . . It sounds terribly unfair, doesn't it? But the fact remains that you violated someone's rights in this game first. Even if you don't believe in this stuff, you need to take responsibility for that.


That's so scary … but maybe I'm overreacting a little. If I don't break the rules, I won't get punished…
…And that's assuming this is real … and that I'm even going to participate in this game … which I probably might not…
Besides, punishments always start off mild and then ramp up, but you'll have to consider that even the mild punishments can turn brutal if you're unlucky.


…Or lucky, if you're into that shit.
*giggle* Maybe you are? Is that why you're asking so many questions? I won't judge~ !


As if! I'm just asking to be cautious!
How strict are the rules then?


It all depends on how strict the punishment you're receiving is, and on which one of the gods is punishing you. In mild cases, you will receive a black star - or another black marking - that can be washed right off, which basically means that you're being warned for doing something wrong. It's Kostikki's way of telling us to "cut it out, or else". Sometimes Lauhatar will also punish or warn us in this way, and fortunately for us, it's the most she'll ever do to us. In a similar way, it's her way of saying "be careful, or you'll get in trouble".

But then, maybe you didn't heed the warnings, or you broke a more strict rule; now Kostikki has taken attention, and he does not like to have his patience tested. He will curse you with the kind of star you can't simply wash off, and now you're stuck with it.


…Yikes…
So, how to get rid of it then?


Well, the punishments are usually timed, meaning you might have to wear it for one day straight, for example. It could also be just an hour, or maybe even two days. Again, it depends on your violation. The only to get rid of it faster is by actually getting punished, which, as you can imagine, happens when you're discovered. My tip, find someone you can trust and tell him you've been a bad girl. It should still be effective if you're not known to be a troublemaker. If you are, well . . . tough luck.


But can't you just hide it then? Or wash it off like you can with the normal markings?


Hiding it to avoid being punished doesn't work. If you try, more time will only be added to your punishment, meaning you'll have to wear it for an even longer time now. Additionally, Kostikki may move the tattoo around if you keep trying anyway.

Lastly, there's a little case of Kostikki interpreting your actions as you "asking" to be punished. If you break the rules with the sole purpose of wanting to get into trouble, he will gladly answer. He won't be angry, but he'll punish you nonetheless because it's exactly what you want. He may even look at you more favorably if you do that.


You said "or another black marking" a minute ago, so does that mean we can be punished with black suits too? What does that mean? And does a black marking seriously mean they can do anything they want?


Well, like I said earlier, the secrets of this game must be protected from outsiders, and no punishment can be so severe as to violate that rule. The only other general rule is that the punishment MUST stop once the black marking is removed by Kostikki!


…Except, of course, you happen to be enjoying the punishment you're receiving…


Other than that, you will be punished based on which one of the five markings you wear. This will almost always be the black star, regardless of which marking you wear while you break the rules.


"Almost always?" Can Kostikki ever curse you with a black suit, then?


Never say never! But generally, you can't be punished in the literally harshest way possible unless you specifically "ask for it", as they say. I'll try to explain what the black suits mean anyway, as it's important to know.

But first, the black star. Vanilla is the flavor here. You will typically be punished by simply having sex; getting fucked, giving or receiving oral, or being groped and fingered. Both spanking and anal are also on the menu, and so is being tied up. It's all standard stuff you'll probably be doing with boys anyway if you end up wearing a normal star, with the only difference being that they will not have to ask for permission before they do you!

Admittedly, there's not much of a difference with the black diamond. The only real difference is that you're a pervert on top of being a bad girl who needs to be punished. A double whammy! It's like telling everyone you want to and like to be punished.

With the black heart, things get very, very complicated indeed. There are two problems here. Firstly, punishments are meant to be temporary, while the heart is all about long-term commitment. Secondly, there aren't that many rules you play under while wearing a heart anyway! Of course, it IS still theoretically possible for there to be a black heart, but how would you even interpret it? Like, does it mean you literally have to become the girlfriend of the first guy who asks you out or what? It's not something you're likely to be punished with, even if you break the strictest of rules. You're more likely to be punished with a star if you break the rules while wearing a heart.

♤♧ And finally, with you can imagine the harshest of punishments. Since the club and the spades signal the desire to be a slave or a pet, and a desire to receive orders, then with a black one . . . Do I even need to spell it out? You will receive orders, and you must follow them. You will do everything you're told. Nothing Heidi told about the pink star and consent means anything anymore. The black spades and a club ARE a "free use", "rape me", or a "have your way with me" sign to take advantage of as you please!


It sure is a massive relief that the suits are off the standard punishment table, unless you "ask for it", as they say. I can't even think what I would do if I was literally forced to wear a black spade tattoo I couldn't remove no matter what I did…
Also, it kinda sounds like all these punishments that are directed at the Star-Bearers are by Kostikki, but what about those who took advantage of Star-Bearers?


Those punishments are even more complicated. Kostikki does want to corrupt us, but there are still limits to what even he would want. In the end, what he wants is pleasure for all parties. If we scream, cry, and get depressed and suicidal the moment we experience some uncomfortable sex . . . well, that wouldn't make Kostikki happy! This is why he CAN punish those who would dare to hurt us and protect us from the most extreme of harm.

That being said, most of such punishments are handed over by Lauhatar. She wants us to be free and feel sexually liberated for our sacrifice of trying to appease Kostikki while also keeping him happy and satisfied. If someone tries to disrupt that balance, she will get mad. Like, really mad. Scarily mad. Insanely mad. I can't even think of a superlative to describe how mad she would get.

I myself said that she's nearly not as strong as Kostikki, but to say she's weak is a bit of a misconception. Her curses are versatile, long-lasting, and most importantly, strong, even fatal. She's a lot more fickle emotional too, and tends to use a lot of imagination with her punishments. Maybe a man who has wronged us falls from a boat on a fishing trip and gets bitten in his dick by a lake-dwelling pike? Maybe a tree falls over them, and they break an arm? Maybe a lightning strike leaves them injured, or even a car crash? Those things can turn fatal, you know…


Well, it's a good thing you girls don't have to worry too much about facing her wrath then, huh? She sounds scarier than Kostikki in her own way.


Hell hath no fury like woman's scorn, as they say.


One thing that really puzzles me about all of this though…
What incentive is there for anyone to punish us on Kostikki's behalf then?


An excellent question, little miss Björnquist!

It's because they fear Kostikki and what he could do if his will is not fulfilled. As you heard from the story, he can play sexual pranks on everyone, possess individual villagers, and even control their minds on a large scale to do his bidding and such last. All of these are things he might resort to if his will is not fulfilled. He did it in the past, and he might do it again.

People generally don't want their bodies taken over by perverted mountain gods, as you can imagine, so they listen to him. Having your brains poked and altered by him isn't something people aren't too keen on either. Don't think this can happen just to men either; Kostikki might even brainwash you into being a sex-crazed nymphomaniac!


Wouldn't have to do that to you as you're already a fucking perverted nympho.


Ermmm . . . no you!


*giggle*


The point is nobody wants to provoke his anger, not the people who rely on our "services", not even the people who claim to serve him. That's why, when he marks someone as a subject for punishment, people tend to listen and obey.


Hmmmm… Okay… I'm starting to understand why it really, REALLY is important to follow the rules then.


…Although admittedly, all this still sounds unbelievable. If it is true, then yeah, rules MUST be followed. If not, well . . . the rules are sensible, so they should be followed anyway.
All of this also makes me wonder how long one must do this then.
Like, you're both Star-Bearers. Can you just quit being one if you don't like it anymore? Are there rules or punishments about that?


Nope! Wear a star today? Great! Don't wanna do it tomorrow? Also great! Take a break for a year? No problem! You can even quit altogether! No rule says you must stay a Star-Bearer forever if you try it once, and nobody's gonna punish you if you quit. It can be a one-time thing or a year-long commitment.


The only situation where you must be one is if Lauhatar herself chooses you as one, but even then, it should be viewed as an honor, not a burden.

Like I said earlier, my granny was chosen as one when she was young. Nobody has been chosen ever since because there hasn't been a need for it, and there's unlikely to be a need for it, considering how many of us willingly wear the stars.


One final question on punishments:
Kostikki and Lauhatar are obviously local spirits, so how far does their influence reach? And how does that factor into punishments?


Oh, right! I totally ignored that important fact! Since Kostikki is tied to the little mountain the village is next to, he can only influence the surrounding area. Nobody's quite sure exactly how big his area of influence is, but it should reach all the way from the shores of Storsjön to the Norwegian border, making it a pretty large area. That includes more villages than just this, as you can imagine. It even includes the ski resort…

Obviously, you cannot be cursed by him if you break the rules outside this area. He will know if you ever return here though, so don't go breaking the rules in a neighboring village or a big city just because you think you're safe! Escaping his curse is also possible. You can't remove a permanent star here, but you can wash it off if you decide to leave the village. He will be very pissed by this and curse you again if you return, probably even more than last time around.


Okay, makes sense. I think that's enough information about the rules then.