Talk:Yes/Tom & Tash/D-1(B) Br2/Keep Pushing

I choose . . . take the ring off THEN ask Tash. If they're really close, they shouldn't be willing to compel each other so easily on something as big as incest. Asking her without the ring though . . . that works for me. --Elerneron (talk) 16:18, 6 February 2017 (CET)

That's fair! I'll have a think about how that conversation will go. It might be that the conversation will have to be had two or three times throughout the day, or will have multiple option points during the conversation. I don't want it to just be that Tom really wants incest and Tash doesn't, rather they would have to talk each other into it, particularly as, although they've seen each other naked hundreds of times, and have occasionally explored each other, they have never gotten close to the foreplay stage before! Also, that way if Tash gets hold of the ring, her mind can't just be suddenly changed by her becoming the protagonist of the idea. --Jackmaster (talk) 16:40, 6 February 2017 (CET)

Well, I have to say that this is a considerable improvement from the previous rendition. And while I am not particularly sold on writing for this branch yet, if I were going that direction then Elerneron's request is exactly the thing that I would ask for, so I think I will second that. Jemini (talk) 18:08, 6 February 2017 (CET)

EDIT: Actually, on second thought, while the writing has improved a great deal there is still a little issue with this post. It was noted that the class age apparently ranged from 10 to 14, and it was also mentioned that ages could go higher under some conditions. What level of school are they in exactly? About the only schools that would have that age range are middle schools in 4 year age-block systems (with the elementary school adding Kindergarten,) so that would make it 5th through 8th grade, and Tom and Tash would have to have rather early birthdays. In this case though, there would be no older kids as Tom and Tash would be among the older 8th graders. Little plot holes like this aren't quite as big as the writing conventions, witch as I mentioned improved a great deal, but it does break immersion a little when things fail to add up. It is one of those "small but big" things. (and from my perspective, them being older 8th graders in middle school or normal 9th graders in a 3 or 4 year Junior high school (witch would knock the 10 year olds off the list) would make the most sense considering the ages of their friends.) Jemini (talk) 18:18, 6 February 2017 (CET)

Thank you. I'm going to edit it to add that as a fourth option. With regards to the ages, I did initially find that certain schools in some areas ran 9 a 6 grade block. Since talking to Elerneron, this branch is currently set in England instead (on the mention of if that did put people off I'd reset in USA again). that should, in normal schools, mean it runs age 11-16 (or to 18 if it has a sixth form). Private schools in this country have all sorts of collections of ages, some running age 9-18, others running 7-16. That said, I will probably adjust the ages to just make it a normal state school. So at the age of 14 they can either be in year 10 with very late birthday, or year 9 with a pre-May birthday. The initial decision was year 9 (age 13-14 - is that 8th grade equivalent?). So this should actually have two years above them (I do need to edit that), which are the GCSE years; those years are not in school on the Day 1 of this branch. A house group would have kids from all five school years. There's 20 kids from each year in each house, and I think I'm going to change it to four house classes, which means each one is made up of 5 students from each year, 25 in total. In short, I've got a few edits to make :) --Jackmaster (talk) 19:52, 6 February 2017 (CET)

Yes, in the US school system, Kindergarten would be the same as year 1, and then 1st grade is year 2 and all the one number down confusing fantasticness flows from there as expected. In the US, there are several different ways they arrange the schools. Elementary school can include grades K-4th, K-5th, or K-6th depending on the school district. If it is K-4th, then the level above is called "Middle school," and encompasses grades 5th - 8th (6th through 9th years.) If elementary school is K-5th or K-6th, then the middle level is called "Junior High School," and it includes grades 6th or 7th through to the 9th grade. So, it is either a 3 or 4 year Junior High. If there is a Junior High, it always ends with 9th grade (year 10.) The only question is witch grade it begins with (6th or 7th / year 7 or 8.) Of those 3 arrangements though, the model that uses the Middle School seems to be becoming more common than the model that uses Junior High school. They seem to be transitioning toward that as the standard, although the transition is not complete yet and seems to be rather slow moving. However, there are more Middle Schools than Junior High schools in the US right now. Jemini (talk) 20:16, 6 February 2017 (CET)

We have Reception, which is pre year 1, which is starting age 4. I guess that's a year younger than Kindergarten? I should get to work on the edits before moving with the next page... --Jackmaster (talk) 22:27, 6 February 2017 (CET)

When I went to school in the Stone Age (LOL) Elementary School was 1st - 6th, Junior High was 7th and 8th, and High School was 9th - 12th. Kindergarten wasn't available in my school district. My mother had the same school setup (actually the same schools). That same school district now goes: Elementary School K - 5th, Middle School 6th - 8th, High School 9th - 12th. Not that any of this information helps your story, just thrown a little by Jemini not mentioning 2 year Junior High Schools. --Elerneron (talk) 05:32, 7 February 2017 (CET)