Mother's Helping Hand/Rules/Point System

Okay had another idea while sleeping, where I get most story ideas. But this time I wanted to run it by the group before implementing it. The idea was to establish a point system. Each girl will be assigned a number of points based on certain conditions and personality traits. These points basically represent how hard the creator/Collaborator thinks a specific girl would be for Jake to get with. Each point scale will have conditions that are required for Jack to be able to score with her. So on to what I mean.

Girl Point Values. (Only apply the first time Jack has sex with them, secondary encounters on the same path don't require points.)

Sexuality

Oral Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Anal Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Vaginal Virgin: +1/2 pt.

Oraly Experienced: -1/8 pt.

Analy Experienced: -1/8 pt.

Vaginally Experienced: -1/4 pt.

Oral/Cum Slut:-1/4 pt.

Anal Slut: -1/4 pt.

Vaginal Slut: -1/2 pt

Deep Rooted Unknown Fetish: 0 pts.

Deep Rooted Known fetish: -1/4 pt.

Surface Unknown fetish: -1/4 pt.

Surface known fetish: -1/2 pt.

Strong Unknown fetish: -1/2 pt.

Strong Known fetish: -1 pt.

Pro-Sex Sexual Psychosis: -1 pt.

Anti-Sex Sexual Psychosis: +1 pt.

Race

Elf: +1 pt

Dark Elf: +1 1/2 pt.

Dwarf: +1 1/2 pt.

Gnome: +1 1/2 pt.

Halfling: 0 pt.

Lizard Folk: +2 pt.

Beastkin: -1 to +2 pt.

Highly Sexual Beastkin (Rabbitkin): -1 pt.

Slightly Sexual Beastkin (Cat/Foxkin): -1/2 pt.

No Sexual Aversion (Dogkin): 0 pt.

Sexually Avers Beastkin: -1 pt

Strongly Sexually Avers Beastkin: -2 pt.

Goblin: -1 pt.

Orc: -1 pt.

Cambion: -1/2 pt.

Sanctus: +1/2 pt.

Officin: 0 pt.

Zorn: For breeding -1 pt. For casual sex +1 pt.

Otherworldly: +2 pt.

Demon/Devil: -2 pt.

Sexual Knowledge an Experinces

No Sexual Knowledge: -1 pt.

Some Sexual Knowledge: -1/2 pt.

Positive Sexual Exposure: -1/4 pt.

Positive Sexual Experience: -1/2 pt.

Extreamly Positive Sexual Experience: -1 pt.

Negative Sexual Exposure: +1/2 pt.

Negative Sexual Experience: +1 pt.

Traumatic Sexual Experience: +2 pt.

=Sexual Orientation

Bisexual: 0pt.

Lesbian:+2 pt.

Age

Very Young (6 or below): -2 pt.

Young (10-7): -1 1/2 pt.

Tween (11-12): -1 pt.

Early Teen (13-15): -1/2 pt.

Late Teen (16-19): 0 pt.

Young Adult (20-24): +1/2 pt.

Adult (25-35): +1 pt.

Mature Adult (36-45): +2pt.

Elder (46+): +3 pt.

Religion

Religious (Purity Religion): +1 pt.

Doubting (Purity Religion): +1/2 pt.

Clergy (Purity Religion): +2 pt.

Celestial/Diety (Purity Religion): +4 pt.

Religious (Sexually Neutral Religion): 0 pt.

Doubting (Sexually Neutral Religion): 0 pt.

Clergy (Sexually Neutral Religion): +1/2 pt.

Celestial/Diety (Sexually Neutral Religion): +2 pt.

Religious (Pro-Sex/Corruption Religion): -2 pt.

Doubting (Pro-Sex/Corruption Religion): -1 pt.

Clergy (Pro-Sex/Corruption Religion): -1 pt.

Celestial/Diety (Pro-Sex/Corruption Religion): +1 pt.

=Other

Incest: +1 pt.

Married: +2 pt.

Feminist: +3 pt.

Domanant: +2 pt.

Submissive: -1 pt.

Naturally Submissive: -2 pt.

Sexually Curious: -1/2 pt.

Sexually Curious and experimenting: -1 pt.

• special
  • Zero sexual knowledge: -1 pt. Doesn't even know boys and girls are different "down there," might have unpredictable reactions upon first seeing a penis that will cause a temporary boost in their point value (exact value to be determined by author, ranging +0 to +3) due to fear and shock as she processes the new information.

• • No male anatomy knowledge: 0 pt. Same effect as above, except has some other sexual knowledge of some kind.

Please feel free to add or suggest point ideas.

Reversible points

Features that can just as easily add or subtract points depending on the particular circumstances. (All points can range positive or negative, or apply at less than full strength, depending on circumstance.) These points can be modified either according to the particular nature of the girl at the point of the points' calculation, or on-the-fly during the story. Most on-the-fly modifications should count the points as positive while figuring them up, but the girl can be triggered under very specific circumstances to suddenly reverse her points completely in the given area. For instance, someone who is stubborn (+2 pt.) and has sexual knowledge decides she's going to have sex because of some event outside of something the MC did or said. This would reverse that +2 to a -2, subtracting 4 total points from the girl's point score.

Rebellious: 1 pt.

Stubborn: 2 pt.

Free-spirited: 1/2 pt.

Aloof: 1 pt.

Sexually awkward: 1/2 pt.

(sexually aware) Total Virgin: 1/2 pt.

Aroused: 1-2 pt. Depending on level of arousal.

NOTE: "Total Virgin" = her experience with Jack will be her first sexual experience ever. (Requires at least some sexual knowledge to get this level.) Can be positive or negative depending on type of knowledge about sex before encounter and cause reactions from not knowing what's going on (positive value) to not knowing what's expected and normal (negative value) (Should be marked in the profile already with a positive or negative value rather than on-the-fly changes during the course of the story.) "Sexually awkward" goes beyond and is independent of the "total virgin" status, and can persist after loosing virginity. It represents some strangeness around the concept of sex for this girl. However, it would still likely diminish after multiple sexual experiences provided they are fully consensual.

Special: Moon family's mind control magic

The mind control magic used by members of the Moon family focuses on bringing about deeply rooted desires, and giving a specific direction to them in order to have them realized. These do not induce a total control over the person, it only pushes them strongly in a certain direction. Given the mostly open sexual nature of the moon family, most of these manipulations will be in the direction of things that will make a sexual conquest easier.

Basic

Awaken carnal desires: -1 pt. (Also increases strength of all sexual fetishes)

Awaken desire for submissiveness: -1 pt.

Awaken desire for boundaries: +1 pt, (reversible if individual was testing boundaries and developed a desire for punishment.)

Awaken desire for enslavement: -1/2 pt. (master only. Also automatically awakens desire for submissiveness and a reversed-state of a desire for boundaries.)

SPECIAL: Awaken desire for motherhood

Causes affected individual to have a drive to find an acceptable partner to be the parent of their child, but they will still be evaluating said individual for their merit for that role. (causes the following effects dependent on circumstances.)

All age based points are doubled:' Reflects wisdom of age and impulsiveness of youth.

Jack is confident: -1

Jack is beta: +3 (Reduced to +1 if affected girl is 10 or under)

Jack is not confident, but not beta either: +1 if affected girl is 16+, -1 if affected girl is 10 or under, 0 if affected girl is 11-15

Affected girl is age 11-15: -2, stacks with doubled age-based points. (reflects raging sex hormones)

Affected girl can beat Jack in a debate: +2

Affected girl earns straight As or earns and income: +2

Circumstantial

(applies only if specific circumstances are present.)

Desire for peace: (If Jack has upset a girl, halves any positive points that resulted from her being upset)

Desire for companionship: Causes them to want to be Jack's friend (Speeds rate at which they become closer to Jack as a friend.)

Closeness to Jack

Doesn't know Jack at all: +1/4 Pt.

Has become acquainted with Jack: Knows his name and has interacted, 0 Pt.

Her and Jack know each other:Have exchanged enough words to know a few life details -1/4

Consider each other close acquaintances Feel fairly comfortable being around each other -1/2

Consider each other loose friends Will demonstrate a preference toward being with each other over others -3/4

Consider each other casual friends Will make active attempts to get together for some activity or other -1

Consider each other close friends Feel Ok about coming to each other with their life problems -1 1/4

Consider each other as close as family Sees nothing strange about even living in the same house together -1 1/2

Consider each other as life partner material Can see themselves becoming married to one another at some point -2

Has developed a relationship of dominance over Jack 0 Pt, takes precedent over all other modifiers based on closeness of relationship.

NOTE: Jack's mother is the only member of the family who actually is at the "consider each other as close as family" level with Jack.

NOTE 2: This is a work in progress, considering re-phrasing levels to make the family distinction a little more clear, can't think of proper phrasing right now.

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EXAMPLE Dannie Martin

Oral Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Anal Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Vaginal Virgin: +1/2 pt.

No Sexual Knowledge: -1 pt.

Very Young (6 or below): -2 pt.

Incest: +1 pt.

Religious (Purity Religion): +1 pt.

Submissive: -1 pt.

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Total Points = -1 or 0 as you can't have less than 0 points.

Jack's Confidance levels.=

As Jack succeeds with more and more girls, his sexual knowledge and skills increase, which in turn increases his Confidance Level. To count as a sexual conquest, Jack has to have had consentual sex with a girl with a score of 1 or higher, Oral, Vaginal and Anal. Consensual sex with a girl with a score of 0 (Permanent or Temporary) or Non-consentual sex with anyone, only counts as 1/2 a conquest (This includes Mind Control, Slavery, Drugs and Alcohol). The 1/2 from Non-consentual sex can can be regained, if it is possible to remove the mitigating factor, have consentual sex and the girl has a score of 1 or higher.

Beta

0-1 Sexual Conquests

Somewhat Confident

2-4 Sexual Conquests

Confident

5-9 Sexual Conquests (Score of 0 are worth nothing, 1-2 are worth 1/2 at this level)

Very Confident

10-15 Sexual Conquests (Score of 0-2 are worth nothing, 3-4 are worth 1/2 at this level)

Alpha

16+

Super Alpha

Only Achieved by bedding Helen and her two Daughters, all four of his Sister's, his Aunt Lora, three Faculty Members and a high ranking member of a Church. (His mother can replace anyone on the list except for the Moons)

(Open to suggestions if you feel number of conquests is to high or low.)

Jack's confidence levels

Pathetic Jack - Sub-beta state. This represents a severe back-slide and worsening of Jack's status at the start of the story. Pathetic Jack shows little or no initiative on his own in terms of seductions. He would get here from some failed attempt at a seduction ruining his already shaky confidence.

Beta Jack - Jack at the start-point of the story. Not very competent with women and caves easily to pressure, but does want to seek sex and will bumble toward that goal. However, he is afraid of the risk of reprisal and will back off easily or hesitate to make a move if he thinks the other side will hate it. If pushed though, he might throw consequences to the wind and push the limits too far into something the other side would consider a severe violation (rape or non-consensual sex)

Somewhat confident Jack - Effectively a beta jack who is starting to come out of his shell. Has gained a little confidence and is secure in the knowledge the world is not going to end if he messes up, but he still fumbles and still really does not quite know what he's doing. He can take the lead if the girl he's trying to seduce is the type who would have the patience to sit and listen to his miandering attempts at a seduction or instructions on what to do next, but any girl with even the slightest confidence, dominance, or self-determination will loose patience with him.

Jack on the road to confidence - There is a lot more room for growth between somewhat confident and straight-up confident. So, there is room for gradations between the two as he's on his path toward development.

Confident Jack - Jack is at the level of your average successful guy. He's no charming smooth-talker at this point, he still definitely messes things up, but he is willing at this point to stick his neck out and take the risk of rejection, and knows it's neither the end of the world nor the end of his chances with that girl if she dislikes what he's doing. Likewise, he's also able to sense when his approach may be going wrong a lot sooner and is able to course-correct, thus raising his chance of success. Finally, confident Jack also has a far better sense of which girls are going to be easy to deal with and which ones are going to be tough nuts to crack.

Very Confident Jack - The in-between stage of Confident and Alpha. Jack continues to improve his approach as he nears Alpha status.

Alpha Jack - Jack now exudes a level of confidence that seems to change the way a girl thinks, making all but the most dominant girls and women feel uncomfortable with the idea of rejecting Jack even if they are not really all that into what's going on. A caring Alpha Jack can make such an unwilling girl enjoy it, but an uncaring Alpha Jack can have sex of "questionable" levels of consent with almost any girl he sets his sights on with a good enough approach.

Super Alpha Jack - Jack is not just overflowing with confidence, he's also got a great deal of sexual experience and seduction skills under his belt, along with a few other tricks up his sleeve. He has all the tools at his disposal to make it so he can truly get any woman he wants with enough preparation and the right approach.

Special temporary confidence-level modifiers.

• If Jack is given a mind-controlled slave, he will behave automatically as though he were 1 confidence level higher in relation to that particular girl.
• If Jack is a Virgin, he will behave about half a step down from his current confidence level. (NOTE: It IS possible to raise his confidence level without him having sex. Going on practice dates with his oldest sister is an example of such a method.)

Point requirement

O pt. Jack can seduce these girls easily with no effort. Any failure would be solely on his part and have nothing to do with the girl.

1-2 pt. Beta Jack has no chance. A somewhat confident Jack with some help from Mom, or Beta Jack with Mom doing all the work can succeed. a confident Jack or higher would have no issues.

3-4 pt. Beta Jack has no chance even with help. Somewhat Confident Jack with mom's help or a Confident Jack solo can succeed. A very confident or higher Jack would have no issues.

5-6 pt. Somewhat Confident Jack and below has no chance. Confident Jack has a Chance but would require a lot of mom's help, may even need another conquest close to the girl to real her in. A very confident Jack can succeed. An Alpha Jack or higher would succeed.

7+ pt. The only Jack that could succeed at this level would be Alpha Jack.

This is only the rough idea. I am open to suggestions on improving the system. Once finalized I'll start working the numbers for all the girls. Right now without running the numbers I think mom and Lori would be the only 7+.

1/8 point to 7/8 point and any other in-between range between categories should be considered highly difficult but possible for the guidelines in the category below, or fairly easy but not as easy as a full step down for the category immediately above. Of course, with slight leanings in either direction depending on where it is on the range. For instance, Beta Jack can succeed with a 2 1/2 like Amanda House (was before the latest modification) only with so much help from mom she's pretty much doing all the actual work and he's just along for the ride.

Oh and a note about age. It is relative age, so 160 year old Elf would be 16 on the age pt.

Maredith and Points

As the female protagonists of this story the points react differently for her, not only does Jack need to get his confidence up, but to get to his goal, have sex with momma, her points have to drop, or special conditions have to be met. Maredith is coming into the game with Plot Armour, protagonists Shield and The Sword of the Momma Bear.

10+: Ain't nothing in the world that is getting her to drop her pants except a Super Alpha Jack with Helen bent over Maredith's desk, a naked Sky and Princess kneeling at his feet talking dirty to her while she watches. She will not let him impregnate her or let anyone else know about it.

9: A Super Alpha Jack might be able to with maxed incest fetish and help from Helen. She will not let him impregnate her or let anyone else know about it.

8: An Alpha Jack might have a chance with some help from her Goddesses, and her incest fetish is known, but no pregnancy and no one can know. Super Alpha Jack could convince her but no pregnancy and no one can know.

7: Very Confident Jack could convince her with help of the Goddesses. Alpha Jack could convince her if her incest fetish is known. No impregnation and others can't know. She would do Super Alpha Jack in front of others, but still no impregnation.

6: Confident Jack might have a chance with support of the Goddesses, but incest fetish has to be known. Very Confident Jack could convince her if incest fetish is known, Alpha Jack would be able to convince her on his own. No Pregnancy and others can't know. She Would fuck Super Alpha Jack in front of others, might consider letting him impregnate her.

5: Confident Jack has a chance if her incest fetish is known. Very Confident Jack could Convince her, no impregnation and no one else can know. Alpha Jack can convince her easily and she might do it in front of others. Super Alpha Jack could impregnate her during Christmas Dinner.

4: Somewhat Confident Jack might have a chance with support of the Goddesses, but incest fetish has to be known. Confident Jack could convince her if incest fetish is known, Very Confident Jack would be able to convince her on his own. No Pregnancy and others can't know. She Would fuck Alpha Jack in front of others, might consider letting him impregnate her.

3: She might give Beta Jack a hand job if it was needed to help him get with another girl, but would stress it's only to get with the other girl. Somewhat Confident Jack can with support of the Goddesses, but incest fetish has to be known. Confident Jack could convince her, no Pregnancy and others can't know. Very Confident Jack would be able to convince her on his own quite easily, she would have sex with him in front of others but no Pregnancy. Alpha Jack could impregnate her during Christmas Dinner.

2: She might give Beta Jack a hand job or Oral sex if it was needed to help him get with another girl, but would stress it's only to get with the other girl. Somewhat Confident Jack can with support of the Goddesses, but incest fetish has to be known. Confident Jack could convince her, no Pregnancy and others can't know. Very Confident Jack would be able to convince her on his own quite easily, she would have sex with him in front of others, might consider pregnancy.

1: She would give Beta Jack a hand job for fun but Oral sex only if it was needed to help him get with another girl, but would stress it's only to get with the other girl. Somewhat Confident Jack can with support of the Goddesses. Confident Jack would be able to convince her on his own quite easily, she would have sex with him in front of others, might consider pregnancy. Very Confident Jack could impregnate her during Christmas Dinner.

0: She would have sex with Beta Jack only if it was necessary to help him get with another girl, but would repeatedly stress it's only to help. Would give Oral sex or give Beta Jack Hand jobs for fun, No pregnancy and no one else can know. Somewhat Confident Jack would be able to convince her on his own quite easily, she would have sex with him in front of others, might consider pregnancy. Confident Jack could impregnate her during Christmas Dinner.

Girls by points

(Thought we should do them here since this will involve spoilers.)

5th grade

Ema Martin (10, 5th grade MC Cousin)

Oral Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Anal Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Vaginal Virgin: +1/2 pt.

Some Sexual Knowledge: -1/2 pt.

Negative Sexual Exposure: +1/2 pt.

Young (10-7): -1 1/2 pt.

Doubting (Purity Religion): +1/2 pt.

Incest: +1 pt.

Submissive: -1 pt.

Relationship with Jack = Casual friend -1

Total: -1 or 0

6th grade

Deverux twins, Jane and Julie

Oral Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Anal Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Vaginal Virgin: +1/2 pt.

Total Virgin: -1/2

Zero Sexual Knowledge: -1 pt.

Tween (11-12): -1 pt.

Domanant: +2 pt.

Rebellious: +1 pt.

Stubborn: +2 pt.

• • Note: Reversal conditions for Rebellious and Stubborn are they gain sexual knowledge and MC is in an exclusive open sexual relationship with someone they want to hurt. No other reversal conditions will apply.**

Total: 3 1/2

7th grade

Ava Martin (12, 7th grade MC Cousin.)

Oral Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Anal Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Vaginal Virgin: +1/2 pt.

Total Virgin: +1/2

Sexually awkward: -1/2 pt.

Surface known fetish: -1/2 pt. (Crush on Jack)

Some Sexual Knowledge: -1/2 pt.

Negative Sexual Exposure: +1/2 pt.

Early Teen (13-15): -1/2 pt.

Doubting (Purity Religion): +1/2 pt.

Incest: +1 pt.

Relationship with Jack = Close friend. -1 1/4 pt.

Total: +3/4 pt.

Highschool Freshmen

Amanda House (13, 9th grade):

Oral Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Anal Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Vaginal Virgin: +1/2 pt.

Total Virgin: -1/2

Some Sexual Knowledge: -1/2 pt.

Early Teen (13-15): -1/2 pt.

Religious (Purity Religion): +1 pt.

Domanant: +2 pt.

Sexually Curious: -1/2 pt.

Total: 2 pt.

Allister Weir (Soul is 45 years old but is currently controlling the body of his 16 year old daughter):

Oral Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Anal Virgin: +1/4 pt.

Vaginal Virgin: +1/2 pt.

Strong Known fetish: -1 pt. (Rape)

Anti-Sex Sexual Psychosis: +1 pt. (Magic curse)

Anti-Sex Sexual Psychosis: +1 pt. (Magic Curse)

Anti-Sex Sexual Psychosis: +1 pt. (Magic Curse)

Pro-Sex Sexual Psychosis: -1 pt. (Magic Curse)

Negative Sexual Experience: +1 pt.

Lesbian:+2 pt.

Elder (46+): +3 pt.

Religious (Pro-Sex/Corruption Religion): -2 pt.

Demon/Devil: -2 pt.

Stubborn: 2 pt.

Total: 6 pt.

Adults

Lora Martin (32, MC Aunt Lives in another town):

Oraly Experienced: -1/8 pt.

Vaginally Experienced: -1/4 pt.

Anti-Sex Sexual Psychosis: +1 pt. (Frigid)

Adult (25-35): +1 pt.

Married: +2 pt.

Feminist: +3 pt.

Domanant: +2 pt.

Total: 8 5/8

Maredith Martin (40, Headmistress, Female Protagonist):

Oraly Experienced: -1/8 pt.

Analy Experienced: -1/8 pt.

Vaginally Experienced: -1/4 pt.

Deep Rooted Known fetish: -1/4 pt. (Pedo)

Deep Rooted Known fetish: -1/4 pt. (Impregnation)

Mature Adult (36-45): +2pt.

Married: +2 pt.

Religious (Sexually Neutral Religion): 0 pt.

Incest: +1 pt.

Domanant: +2 pt.

'Stubborn: 2 pt.

• • Reversal conditions for "stubborn." Meridith has some specific benchmarks in mind she wants Jack to reach before she decides to reward him by letting him have sex with her. Those benchmark conditions are not developed at the start of the story, she will develop them as the story progresses, and they are also subject to change, but at any time she decides he has met them for any reason she becomes a 4 unless and until she decides he hasn't quite lived up to her expectations after all.**

Total: 8 pt.

Helen Moon (40 (looks 20,) Teacher, 1st grade):

Oraly Experienced: -1/8 pt.

Analy Experienced: -1/8 pt.

Vaginally Experienced: -1/4 pt.

Strong Known fetish: -1 pt.

Extreamly Positive Sexual Experience: -1 pt.

Otherworldly: +2 pt. (Race)

Mature Adult (36-45): +2pt.

Celestial/Diety (Sexually Neutral Religion): +2 pt. (Religion)

Domanant: +2 pt.

Free-spirited: 1/2 pt.

Aloof: 1 pt.

• • A note on Helen's Aloofness, she is not particularly unfriendly, the opposite in fact. However Dannie Martin and Maredith Martin are the only real mortals she truly cares about, the rest are seen as fun things to interact with and sometimes enjoy. No malevolence is ever intended.**
  • Total: 7 pt.

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