Talk:Mother's Helping Hand/School/Religions/The One/Shield

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Hey Telgar, here's an idea:

"There is somewhat of a friendly rivalry between the order of the shield and the order of the rose. While women aren't prohibited from joining the order of the shield, it is generally frowned upon by other women."

Basically, the shields are typically men and the roses are typically female.

I had an idea of a group of trainee roses snuck out and begged a shield knight to train them and after years of secret grueling training, the girls were found out , but instead of being reprimanded, both the local Paladin and Grand Healer gave their blessing. The main reason for this blessing, was so that the order of the shield could have access to Lamton's School for Women, without raising too much of a comotion.

(I've got pictures for female knights, between ages 15 and 20, as well as their standard/flag) --MrPib (talk) 03:19, 9 March 2020 (CET)


Well everything you wrote in your idea is mostly true, Shield is mostly men and Rose is mostly women, and there is a friendly rivalry, though that also includes Moon, sort of a three way rivalry between the three militant Orders.

The last part can't happen though, as one of the core Tennant's of the Religon is "No discrimination." So there would be no reason to sneak the training. If a woman wanted to join Sheild she would join and go through the process just like a man.

I have pictures picked out already for the Priestess, Pathfinder, Knight, Expert, and Inspector, that work at Lamptons. However if you want you can make your own for the higher ranks who all live at Larange, or the first tier who live at Lamptons. Or even some of the second tier who work at Larange or The outskirts. Also remember they are not limited by race either anyone that is able can join any Order.

While in Garrison they dress like warrior nuns. But armoured Knights would work for the Shield when preparing for battle, Rose only where heavy armour when fighting Undead, and Moon always wear light armour. telgar (talk) 11:23, 9 March 2020 (PST)

Also keep in mind, children, mostly Orphans or half breeds, can join the Orders and be first tier, as young as five, though they don't do field work with a trainer before ten, and field work alone before fifteen. telgar (talk) 03:53, 9 March 2020 (PST)


My original idea was to have this group, but aged up because I don't have the energy to crop portraits for them as kids.

If your curious, they are the Rose Order from GATE: and Thus the JSDF fought there. --MrPib (talk) 13:03, 9 March 2020 (CET)


Well they would make great Squires, though the guy in the back would have to go. I have no idea what Rose Order from GATE: and Thus the JSDF fought there. means though. telgar (talk) 05:58, 9 March 2020 (PST)


Okay looked it up, I see what you mean by the standard, if they were to be Order of the Rose they would be Experts, and a special Undead hunting unit, not assigned to any location, one of their number would be a Healer. telgar (talk) 05:58, 9 March 2020 (PST)


I sent you a PM on the forum with their pictures, I even cropped the old guy out

--MrPib (talk) 14:45, 9 March 2020 (CET)

Thanks, being on a phone I can't really crop them. But I'll keep them in mind for now, definitely can see a use for both the kid pics and the adult ones. telgar (talk) 07:05, 9 March 2020 (PST)