Talk:Offline/Leave her to the wolves

Lots of fun here! I massaged and expanded things a little, but a very welcome entry! --Villenia (talk) 08:24, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the edit! In my next entry, I plan for him to get caught talking to (or eavesdropping on) some of the adults or otherwise learning some family secrets. Maybe Uncle Willy gets his chance to do some oversharing. Maybe Jay can learn something interesting about Aunt Clara or Uncle Dave? I will definitely want your input on this part.

I've thought about why the family hasn't got together for a while, aside from just the logistics. I won't reveal too much too soon, but here are all my thoughts. There was another camping trip back when Lizzy was still little, but it ended in disaster. No one will say exactly what happened, but after some pressing, they will reveal it happened after Uncle Andrey had a bit too much to drink. I also want to say Yulia and May are not entirely virgins, and that fact is related to Uncle Andrey's tendencies when he drinks. Maybe they have only given blowjobs, maybe more, but they are familiar with dicks. Aunt Debbie will firmly deny it, but she likes to watch. What do you think? --LukeJ (talk) 15:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Some interesting ideas. I'm okay with different pockets of secrets that not everyone knows about (I have some waiting as well!) but I'd rather people be hiding things from others to "keep the family together" than there be a lot of "open secrets". So something disastrous that kept the family apart might be a bit much, especially since they have still been getting together in smaller groups. Just a few years ago Yulia and May would've been too little for Jay to care about, so he could have met them and even played with them but didn't "remember" them. Bit of an unreliable narrator going on at parts, but leaves lots of holes to fill (pun unintended)

Andrey with Lizzy might be hard to make work from a timeline perspective. Debbie accidentally started a family overseas then returned with a husband and two kids, so only came back around 5 years ago. Maybe that still works for you, but I'd think something between Lizzy and Uncle Willy would be more likely, in part since their families would tend to meet more often. Though some others might know, Clara's brother doing something that she would want to hide from the rest of the family would make for a heckuva secret. Lizzy and Jet messing around is already a big secret, though that's one none of the adults should know about. I like the idea that the kids have their own secrets. But again it's more about weaving a good story for me.

Yulia and May doing something with their dad would fit. Aunt Debbie outright wanting to watch might be a stretch, but she could be so enamoured with Andrey to do whatever he asks, or is convinced that it's a cultural thing, or might keep watch to make sure things don't go too far. So Yulia wanting to show her appreciation of Jay with her mother's blessing or oversight "just like dad" could be interesting.

Secrets that Jay overhears? Maybe Clara and Willy had a thing growing up. That could be something Willy overshares if they're on the topic of "young love" or something, inappropriately interpreting the topic. Or maybe him sharing that Wade walks in on him and Sarabell all the time, that it's not a big deal, kids are gonna learn about it eventually. Maybe that brings Jay's dad to share how he caught Em and Asha playing doctor once, which Willy laughs at since two girls aren't going to learn much from each other. --Villenia (talk) 15:08, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

I thought Uncle Andrey was the blood relative. There was an older version of the contributing guide which said Yulia is Eastern European on her mom's side; I missed that it changed to her dad's side. If Debbie is around to make sure things don't go too far, how far do you think that is? How easily swayed is she? Does she ban penetration, or can he convince her it's okay if he takes time to prepare them for it? Maybe anal only to "protect their virginity"? Maybe this leads Yulia to want to lose her virginity to her "boyfriend". --LukeJ (talk) 16:24, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Yeah I didn't have the family tree fully fleshed out so maybe that was my bad. Side note, feel free to introduce some additional characters. There's easily room for another family or two to squeeze in. Not all the kids have to be sharing the kids cabin because they wouldn't all fit, that's just who you tend to play with. So Jay can roll his eyes at Grandma pulling him onto his lap for a never ending story or Uncle Jimmy pinching your mom's butt and dumping a pitcher of lemonade all over herself, or wide-eyed Wendy who never seems to leave her dad's side. Maybe B&B swap out of the cabin for a night so someone else can join the fun. I'm totally fine with throwaway characters. With Jay a bit selfish and focused on himself, different storylines can easily include or introduce someone who hasn't been mentioned much elsewhere as he would've have cared to take notice of them until he needed or wanted to. It's all about serving the story!

But as for what Debbie might or might not allow, I think it all depends on the context and situation. Her walking in on something might make her panic and try to hide it to protect the girls (and herself) from being judged or getting in trouble, but she could let it continue to not make them feel bad or think they did something wrong. I'm flexible if it makes sense. --Villenia (talk) 21:19, 25 March 2023 (UTC)