Talk:Life Hacks/Beth/Privacy/Make her understand

I had actually intended to write the cuddles without sex route after the previous post on this line. Unfortunately, my spontaneous writing method involves creating the characters in my mind, placing them in the situation, and having them show me how they react and then writing down what I see. You can probably imagine, the character of Beth was not quite able to process being put into a different situation after this one even if it was something she would much prefer over the current situation she's in.

As for the pregnancy notifications mechanic I just wrote in, I am quite aware there is at least 1 other route Xander successfully impregnates someone without this notification going up. I plan to modify this at a future date. Jemini (talk) 06:48, 5 April 2018 (CEST)

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Well, Beth has gone pretty fast from Denial to Anger, so I wonder how receptive she will be to his embrace, after all, in this instance her anger at him is well deserved, but might be mitigated by her submission to him. I wonder what she will say when she enters the bargaining stage. Will she try to bargain with Xander to help her not being pregnant, or just focus on what she could have done different to avoid it. If she's as fast in this stage as in the previous ones, she might accept his embrace as the depression sets in, crying on his shoulder for the lost of her childhood. I don't see the next part as a happy one, but a needed one for things to be able to move along (or he can simply pull the duck and fix everything). --Tod Naturlich (talk) 07:25, 5 April 2018 (CEST)

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Actually, anyone who has had experience in psychology or who has personally experienced real life-changing grief can tell you, you do not go through the 5 stages of grief just once, and the first time just after the event that causes it is usually very fast, and often with skipped stages. Also, someone going through grief does not just smoothly move through the 5 stages and can slide back a stage or even experience 2 stages at the same time. Normally, over the entire cycle, you go through it at least 3 times. The 1st time it's over between 30 minutes and 12 hours. The 2nd time takes around a few months, and the 3rd time takes a few years. The shorter cycles are more intense emotion wise than the longer cycles, and really it is the 2nd time through the cycle that's the most meaningful and difficult with the 3rd time really just being your psyche trying to re-acclimate itself and process the emotions that weren't satisfactorily processed the 2nd time through the cycle. (Nothing is effectively processed the 1st time through the cycle, it's just a mess of your brain trying to take in all the information at once.)

....Yeah... it seems experiencing some hardship or going through a lot of research are rather helpful tools to a writer. (although this is information I would have much preferred to have gotten through research, but I suppose experience allows for a better ability to present it.) Jemini (talk) 21:01, 5 April 2018 (CEST)

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All I experienced with the passing of my mother was a brief period of Denial followed by Depression then Acceptance. I skipped the other stages. They're bunk IMO. --Elerneron (talk) 02:09, 6 April 2018 (CEST)

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If you're talking the idea that you move through the 5 stages once and in sequence without skipping any, yeah, complete and total bunk. Never works that way in real life. IRL, you can hit acceptance and then go all the way back to anger and barganing, or skip the majority of the stages. Also, you do cycle through them from the beginning repeatedly at lower intensities of emotion each time. I said 3 times, but really, you never really heal completely from a loss like the death of a family member. (was also the death of my mother in my case.)

As for the 1st super-intense 30 minute cycle through the phases, I believe that might pertain only to a sudden traumatic event, such as in my case where my mother's death was unexpected and sudden and I happened to be the first person to find her dead body. Since your case was a little more expected you may have not had the 1st super-intense shock experience.

In Beth's case, I am certainly considering this traumatic experience territory. At any rate, as for the whole "5 stages of grief" thing, if used as a hard and fast rule, as most lay-people do, it's complete bunk. Any psychology major worth his salt, and anyone who has ACUTALLY gone through a traumatic experience that can cause grief, will know that it really is more of a useful guide than any kind of rule. Jemini (talk) 03:12, 6 April 2018 (CEST)