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I'm fairly sure it's tangential and based more off of Marvel with a little more drawn from the original myths. I'm pretty sure the Norsemen didn't do beautiful blonde elves either (weren't all their elves the dark variety?). O was treating it more like Percy Jackson than trying to adhere to "accuracy" of mythology. Just my take on it. --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 14:15, 25 October 2016 (CEST)
I'm fairly sure it's tangential and based more off of Marvel with a little more drawn from the original myths. I'm pretty sure the Norsemen didn't do beautiful blonde elves either (weren't all their elves the dark variety?). O was treating it more like Percy Jackson than trying to adhere to "accuracy" of mythology. Just my take on it. --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 14:15, 25 October 2016 (CEST)


There are two races of elves in Norse mythology.  The ælves live in  Ælfhiem, and the dark ælves (dwarves) live in svartælfhiem.  Oddly when anglicizing the word ælf becomes elf, but Ælfhiem and Svartælfhiem become Alfhiem and Svartalfhiem.  Elves are reported to be beautiful or "fairer than the sun to look at".  The dark elves (dwarves) live under the earth and are described as "swarthy" (dark-skinned).  They mine and work in forges, creating better metalwork than can any other race, including the gods.  They are also the first mortals to exist as the sprang to existence from nothingness burrowing through the corpse of Ymir, the frost giant that became the world.  Some have posited that the Vanir race of gods are intended to be the gods of the ælves as the Æsir race of gods are the gods of mankind.  The Æsir and the Vanir had a long war that ended with an exchange of hostages.  Freyr and Freya are the Vanir gods that are "hostages", living with the Æsir as part of their group.  They are treated as equals to their Æsir "captors" but are never allowed to return to the Vanir on threat of war.  --[[User:Elerneron|Elerneron]] ([[User talk:Elerneron|talk]]) 19:11, 25 October 2016 (CEST)
There are two races of elves in Norse mythology.  The ælves live in  Ælfhiem, and the dark ælves (dwarves) live in Svartælfhiem.  Oddly when anglicizing the word ælf becomes elf, but Ælfhiem and Svartælfhiem become Alfhiem and Svartalfhiem.  Elves are reported to be beautiful or "fairer than the sun to look at".  The dark elves (dwarves) live under the earth and are described as "swarthy" (dark-skinned).  They mine and work in forges, creating better metalwork than can any other race, including the gods.  They are also the first mortals to exist as the sprang to existence from nothingness burrowing through the corpse of Ymir, the frost giant that became the world.  Some have posited that the Vanir race of gods are intended to be the gods of the ælves as the Æsir race of gods are the gods of mankind.  The Æsir and the Vanir had a long war that ended with an exchange of hostages.  Freyr and Freya are the Vanir gods that are "hostages", living with the Æsir as part of their group.  They are treated as equals to their Æsir "captors" but are never allowed to return to the Vanir on threat of war.  --[[User:Elerneron|Elerneron]] ([[User talk:Elerneron|talk]]) 19:11, 25 October 2016 (CEST)

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First off, I'm not trying to be a know-it-all buzzkill, so please don't take the following questions to be insulting or confrontational, as that is not my intent.

Are we talking Marvel (lack of) Accuracy or Mythological Accuracy? I just ask because what I know of the mythological Loki is that he is Half-Æsir (God), Half-Jötunn (Giant) and blood brother to Odin (well, I know a LOT more than that, but I digress), while Marvel has him as Odin's adopted son . . . and don't get me started on how they messed up Thor and Sif . . .

The only daughter of his that has high mention in mythology is Hel, whose mother is a Jötunn (and not Loki's Jötunn wife Sigyn, I might add), making any incestuous issue between Loki (50% Æsir/50% Jötunn) and Hel (25% Æsir/75% Jötunn) therefore 37.5% Æsir / 62.5% Jötunn . . . so I'm uncertain where the Elf lineage you are speaking of (as the Norse fairies were elves) is coming from. Is that another Marvel thing? Also the Jötnar are equal to the Æsir and Vanir, and are basically another race of gods, so the issue would be a full god instead of a demi-god, as none of the races are elves, dwarves (which are actually called dark elves), or humans.

I only ask because I absolutely LOVE Norse Mythology, and would love to read a story based on it; but I am not nearly as familiar with Marvel's mutilation of the mythology. --Elerneron (talk) 07:04, 25 October 2016 (CEST)

Edit: My bad I just needed to read further. I'll be back after I have. Sorry. --Elerneron (talk) 07:06, 25 October 2016 (CEST)

Okay, so what I'm getting from this is that it is tangental to the mythology? It's based off of myth with the only original mythological character introduced so far being Loki himself . . . is that correct? Or did I miss one of Loki's mythological liaisons in my study of Norse mythology? . . . because then I would have to flog myself. --Elerneron (talk) 07:19, 25 October 2016 (CEST)

I'm fairly sure it's tangential and based more off of Marvel with a little more drawn from the original myths. I'm pretty sure the Norsemen didn't do beautiful blonde elves either (weren't all their elves the dark variety?). O was treating it more like Percy Jackson than trying to adhere to "accuracy" of mythology. Just my take on it. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 14:15, 25 October 2016 (CEST)

There are two races of elves in Norse mythology. The ælves live in Ælfhiem, and the dark ælves (dwarves) live in Svartælfhiem. Oddly when anglicizing the word ælf becomes elf, but Ælfhiem and Svartælfhiem become Alfhiem and Svartalfhiem. Elves are reported to be beautiful or "fairer than the sun to look at". The dark elves (dwarves) live under the earth and are described as "swarthy" (dark-skinned). They mine and work in forges, creating better metalwork than can any other race, including the gods. They are also the first mortals to exist as the sprang to existence from nothingness burrowing through the corpse of Ymir, the frost giant that became the world. Some have posited that the Vanir race of gods are intended to be the gods of the ælves as the Æsir race of gods are the gods of mankind. The Æsir and the Vanir had a long war that ended with an exchange of hostages. Freyr and Freya are the Vanir gods that are "hostages", living with the Æsir as part of their group. They are treated as equals to their Æsir "captors" but are never allowed to return to the Vanir on threat of war. --Elerneron (talk) 19:11, 25 October 2016 (CEST)