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==Jemini==
I understand what you mean about not knowing if anyone is active. I am likely the most prolific writer on this site and it is only on rare occasion I am confronted with evidence people are reading my work, but there really are a lot of people reading even if it is only a small handful that give any feedback. I am certain if you write something someone will see it, I can't imagine I am the only person people read in any significant number, it is just that you have to write as frequently as I do in order to find out people are reading your stuff. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 06:48, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I understand what you mean about not knowing if anyone is active. I am likely the most prolific writer on this site and it is only on rare occasion I am confronted with evidence people are reading my work, but there really are a lot of people reading even if it is only a small handful that give any feedback. I am certain if you write something someone will see it, I can't imagine I am the only person people read in any significant number, it is just that you have to write as frequently as I do in order to find out people are reading your stuff. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 06:48, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
My general approach on the drop-outs from closed stories so far has been to ignore it, as frustrating as that may be. Also, I certainly know what you mean on wanting to collaborate with someone. I definitely get a boost to my creative energy if there is someone else working on the same story as I am. In fact, I really wouldn't mind working on something together with you if that's what you want to do.
As for a forum, there is no forum dedicated to working along side this story site. The closest thing we have to a forum is the mother site to this one, All The Fallen, which you can find over on the left under the "friends" label. If you got here without going through there though, I have to say I am somewhat surprised. It might be possible to open a thread under "writing discussion" specifically referencing the stories on this site.[[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 15:51, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
FYI: The actual admins for this site are [[User:Elerneron|Elerneron]] and [[User:Iratu|Iratu]], I am not ACTUALLY any kind of official on this site other than the fact I am a Mod on ATF and the biggest contributor here. You probably had the right idea talking to me anyway though since being such a frequent contributor means I would respond a lot faster than Elerneron. (Also, Iratu just plain doesn't come over here unless Elerneron tells him he is needed beings he has owner privileges, Elerneron does the real admin work.)[[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 15:58, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I just took another read of your work. I gather English is probably not your first language? Your writing does look pretty fun in terms of the concepts you push, which shows you have some writing experience, so that is the only way I can see you messing up on the grammar and word-flow the way you do. In fact, the fact grammar and word-flow are your ONLY mistakes of note really cements in the concept you have some writing experience in another language. I can probably help with that.
If you are into lesbians, you could work on the [[Life Hacks/Lexi|female gender-switch angle]] of [[Life Hacks]], the story I'm putting the most effort into right now. It was originally thought up by Elerneron, but I wound up making most of the contributions. The permissions are "open" on that one, and I have made a start into writing character bios on all the characters. (I do get a little overly technical with throwing out numbers and stuff though, which may explain why a lot of people don't like writing for that one, but I can catch you up to speed on it while also possibly simplifying the system at the same time. I never meant for it to be something that scares away outside contributions.)[[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 16:14, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I could probably whip up a new story like that. The line Notsooldpervert gave where a father and the daughter he is molesting switch bodies sounds like a good way to run this, but if you gave me time I could probably come up with something else. How much of a "Bad guy" do you want the guy to be? Like, just doesn't care about the women he manipulates into sex, questionable consent or even rape, or kidnapping and raping girls and keeping them in his sex dungeon?
As for your writing screw-ups, I would suggest just doing the EXACT same thing that turned me from someone who was bad at writing and hated it in highschool to someone who was great at it and loved it in college. It was all the advice my English 101 instructor in college gave me. "A good writer does not just sit down and write a good piece of writing. A good writer writes a rough draft that probably has a lot of problems, then they edit over and over and over again until it becomes a good piece of writing."
So, just edit more. If you can see your mistakes, then that means you have exactly the skill set to allow you to improve by leaps and bounds by implementing this.
[[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 01:54, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Ok, I can whip up a prompt for that real quick. Gonna make it under the "Loli" header since this seems like it will be limited to that department. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 02:31, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
I just finished the prompt. It's called [[The loli's perspective]]. I decided to break form for this site and go with a 1st person, past tense perspective. The view as a "master" you mentioned gave me the image of a narcisist, and him being a "bad-guy" gave me the view of him as a bit of a sociopath. Those are hard perspectives to personally identify with for people, so the standard 2nd person perspective of this site wouldn't work quite as well. So, I'm going with the narcisistic sociopathic manipulative former mass child-molester turned loli is telling us about his/her past exploits over the course of the entire story.[[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 03:15, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm sure you'll do fine. Like I said, just slow it down and edit a few times before going on to the next post. We all have to start somewhere. What you see there is the result of 5 years of writing experience since getting the advice I just gave you about editing more frequently. You simply get better with practice. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 03:51, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Could be she died from the internal damage from being raped. The mother finds out and she's some sort of witch, and she does some sort of ritual using him as the sacrifice and reviving her daughter by binding his soul to her. If you want to go with that angle it's all good, but I actually find being vague is all it takes.
As for talent, I consider talent to be a looser's word. Don't get stuck on such ideas, they will only keep you down. The only pre-determining factor to whether you succeed or not is how much imagination you have, how well you can imagine the things you want to write about. If you have that, the rest is just practice and the will to improve. You sound like you have the will to improve, you sound like you have a good idea in your head about what you want to write, so now all you have to do is stop beating yourself up with words like "talent" and put in the effort needed to improve.[[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 04:20, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Like I said before, 5 years ago I absolutely sucked as a writer. Talent's got nothing to do with it. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 04:22, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
==[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]]==
I'm not a profficient enough writer to feel comfortable contributing, but most of [[User:Jemini|Jemini]]'s feedback seems to come from me. I've read just about everything that gets posted here, and i make requests and suggestions where it's plain that it's welcome. --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 16:43, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I like your story plot on Jemini's talk page. I like the idea of a 9 yo girl, former frat boy bully, getting gang banged and impregnated by a group of frat boy bullies (preferably the same ones he used to call friends).
Also, there are a LOT of unfinished stories here lol. Jemini and especially Elerneron have a tendency to start a great plot, then get bored and move on to another plot (kinda like the way I create new characters in RPG's cause that part is really fun for me). Take a look through the older stories. There's one called (I think) The End Of The World As We Know It where God gets fed up and hands the reigns to someone else who can make all the changes he wants. One line of change included underage public sex is encouraged, incest is encouraged, girls always get pregnant when semen hits their womb, bestiality is ok, and can knock a girl up (seriously, this girl got knocked up so many times that special provisions had to be made that a girl could only get pregnant the first day she was pregnant, and all babies would be born safely [for mother and children] regardless of species lol) She had just gotten knocked up with puppies (after a gangbang on the schoolbus) and was about to be found/fucked by her dad when Elerneron moved on to another story lol. Very disappointing, I must say, since I really wanted to shift views and see the single mom become a fuck toy for her sons lol or that same farm family wind up in a big incestuous orgy. (I REALLY want to see the look on dads face when the oldest daughter gives birth to over a dozen kids, then puppies, then whatever other animals she fucks that day since it was only lunch) --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 21:05, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I agree, it's nice to find people with similar interests. Feel free to PM me at the main site. It might be easier to keep track of a conversation than posting on each other's pages like this.
As for your story, I'm just wondering how he gets changed. Sitting here responding, I thought of another story that might be down your alley. A little girl and her molester father switch bodies a la Freaky Friday. She uses his body to have sex with him in hers, and in the process they both learn things. He learns to be more gentle, and she learns why he enjoys it and starts to like it herself. Maybe ending with them switching back and her initiating sex with him. --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 23:46, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
I have a tendency in a different direction. Men aren't mean or "bad guys" but my girls tend to be slutty nymphomaniacs lol --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 00:44, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Lol i get it. I'm not easily offended, especially when talking to "strangers like me". I started to say something about this being a little too "open". Click the link on the left under Friends: All The Fallen and set up an account. You should be able to use the same username as here. I did. --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 02:56, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
For some reason it says you can't use the message system. Maybe you have to wait for approval? --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 08:40, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
==Tod Natürlich==
Just a quick tip, you can put your signature automatically by entering "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" (four consecutive tildes), or pressing the second to last button on top of the edit box, that's easier than writing your username yourself, and it automatically puts a link to your talk page, as well as the date and time of your post. Hope this help you. --[[User:Tod Naturlich|Tod Naturlich]] ([[User talk:Tod Naturlich|talk]]) 22:41, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 08:40, 15 July 2017

Jemini

I understand what you mean about not knowing if anyone is active. I am likely the most prolific writer on this site and it is only on rare occasion I am confronted with evidence people are reading my work, but there really are a lot of people reading even if it is only a small handful that give any feedback. I am certain if you write something someone will see it, I can't imagine I am the only person people read in any significant number, it is just that you have to write as frequently as I do in order to find out people are reading your stuff. Jemini (talk) 06:48, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

My general approach on the drop-outs from closed stories so far has been to ignore it, as frustrating as that may be. Also, I certainly know what you mean on wanting to collaborate with someone. I definitely get a boost to my creative energy if there is someone else working on the same story as I am. In fact, I really wouldn't mind working on something together with you if that's what you want to do.

As for a forum, there is no forum dedicated to working along side this story site. The closest thing we have to a forum is the mother site to this one, All The Fallen, which you can find over on the left under the "friends" label. If you got here without going through there though, I have to say I am somewhat surprised. It might be possible to open a thread under "writing discussion" specifically referencing the stories on this site.Jemini (talk) 15:51, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

FYI: The actual admins for this site are Elerneron and Iratu, I am not ACTUALLY any kind of official on this site other than the fact I am a Mod on ATF and the biggest contributor here. You probably had the right idea talking to me anyway though since being such a frequent contributor means I would respond a lot faster than Elerneron. (Also, Iratu just plain doesn't come over here unless Elerneron tells him he is needed beings he has owner privileges, Elerneron does the real admin work.)Jemini (talk) 15:58, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I just took another read of your work. I gather English is probably not your first language? Your writing does look pretty fun in terms of the concepts you push, which shows you have some writing experience, so that is the only way I can see you messing up on the grammar and word-flow the way you do. In fact, the fact grammar and word-flow are your ONLY mistakes of note really cements in the concept you have some writing experience in another language. I can probably help with that.

If you are into lesbians, you could work on the female gender-switch angle of Life Hacks, the story I'm putting the most effort into right now. It was originally thought up by Elerneron, but I wound up making most of the contributions. The permissions are "open" on that one, and I have made a start into writing character bios on all the characters. (I do get a little overly technical with throwing out numbers and stuff though, which may explain why a lot of people don't like writing for that one, but I can catch you up to speed on it while also possibly simplifying the system at the same time. I never meant for it to be something that scares away outside contributions.)Jemini (talk) 16:14, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I could probably whip up a new story like that. The line Notsooldpervert gave where a father and the daughter he is molesting switch bodies sounds like a good way to run this, but if you gave me time I could probably come up with something else. How much of a "Bad guy" do you want the guy to be? Like, just doesn't care about the women he manipulates into sex, questionable consent or even rape, or kidnapping and raping girls and keeping them in his sex dungeon?

As for your writing screw-ups, I would suggest just doing the EXACT same thing that turned me from someone who was bad at writing and hated it in highschool to someone who was great at it and loved it in college. It was all the advice my English 101 instructor in college gave me. "A good writer does not just sit down and write a good piece of writing. A good writer writes a rough draft that probably has a lot of problems, then they edit over and over and over again until it becomes a good piece of writing."

So, just edit more. If you can see your mistakes, then that means you have exactly the skill set to allow you to improve by leaps and bounds by implementing this.
Jemini (talk) 01:54, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Ok, I can whip up a prompt for that real quick. Gonna make it under the "Loli" header since this seems like it will be limited to that department. Jemini (talk) 02:31, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

I just finished the prompt. It's called The loli's perspective. I decided to break form for this site and go with a 1st person, past tense perspective. The view as a "master" you mentioned gave me the image of a narcisist, and him being a "bad-guy" gave me the view of him as a bit of a sociopath. Those are hard perspectives to personally identify with for people, so the standard 2nd person perspective of this site wouldn't work quite as well. So, I'm going with the narcisistic sociopathic manipulative former mass child-molester turned loli is telling us about his/her past exploits over the course of the entire story.Jemini (talk) 03:15, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm sure you'll do fine. Like I said, just slow it down and edit a few times before going on to the next post. We all have to start somewhere. What you see there is the result of 5 years of writing experience since getting the advice I just gave you about editing more frequently. You simply get better with practice. Jemini (talk) 03:51, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Could be she died from the internal damage from being raped. The mother finds out and she's some sort of witch, and she does some sort of ritual using him as the sacrifice and reviving her daughter by binding his soul to her. If you want to go with that angle it's all good, but I actually find being vague is all it takes.

As for talent, I consider talent to be a looser's word. Don't get stuck on such ideas, they will only keep you down. The only pre-determining factor to whether you succeed or not is how much imagination you have, how well you can imagine the things you want to write about. If you have that, the rest is just practice and the will to improve. You sound like you have the will to improve, you sound like you have a good idea in your head about what you want to write, so now all you have to do is stop beating yourself up with words like "talent" and put in the effort needed to improve.Jemini (talk) 04:20, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Like I said before, 5 years ago I absolutely sucked as a writer. Talent's got nothing to do with it. Jemini (talk) 04:22, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Notsooldpervert

I'm not a profficient enough writer to feel comfortable contributing, but most of Jemini's feedback seems to come from me. I've read just about everything that gets posted here, and i make requests and suggestions where it's plain that it's welcome. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 16:43, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I like your story plot on Jemini's talk page. I like the idea of a 9 yo girl, former frat boy bully, getting gang banged and impregnated by a group of frat boy bullies (preferably the same ones he used to call friends).

Also, there are a LOT of unfinished stories here lol. Jemini and especially Elerneron have a tendency to start a great plot, then get bored and move on to another plot (kinda like the way I create new characters in RPG's cause that part is really fun for me). Take a look through the older stories. There's one called (I think) The End Of The World As We Know It where God gets fed up and hands the reigns to someone else who can make all the changes he wants. One line of change included underage public sex is encouraged, incest is encouraged, girls always get pregnant when semen hits their womb, bestiality is ok, and can knock a girl up (seriously, this girl got knocked up so many times that special provisions had to be made that a girl could only get pregnant the first day she was pregnant, and all babies would be born safely [for mother and children] regardless of species lol) She had just gotten knocked up with puppies (after a gangbang on the schoolbus) and was about to be found/fucked by her dad when Elerneron moved on to another story lol. Very disappointing, I must say, since I really wanted to shift views and see the single mom become a fuck toy for her sons lol or that same farm family wind up in a big incestuous orgy. (I REALLY want to see the look on dads face when the oldest daughter gives birth to over a dozen kids, then puppies, then whatever other animals she fucks that day since it was only lunch) --Notsooldpervert (talk) 21:05, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I agree, it's nice to find people with similar interests. Feel free to PM me at the main site. It might be easier to keep track of a conversation than posting on each other's pages like this.

As for your story, I'm just wondering how he gets changed. Sitting here responding, I thought of another story that might be down your alley. A little girl and her molester father switch bodies a la Freaky Friday. She uses his body to have sex with him in hers, and in the process they both learn things. He learns to be more gentle, and she learns why he enjoys it and starts to like it herself. Maybe ending with them switching back and her initiating sex with him. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 23:46, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I have a tendency in a different direction. Men aren't mean or "bad guys" but my girls tend to be slutty nymphomaniacs lol --Notsooldpervert (talk) 00:44, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Lol i get it. I'm not easily offended, especially when talking to "strangers like me". I started to say something about this being a little too "open". Click the link on the left under Friends: All The Fallen and set up an account. You should be able to use the same username as here. I did. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 02:56, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

For some reason it says you can't use the message system. Maybe you have to wait for approval? --Notsooldpervert (talk) 08:40, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Tod Natürlich

Just a quick tip, you can put your signature automatically by entering "~~~~" (four consecutive tildes), or pressing the second to last button on top of the edit box, that's easier than writing your username yourself, and it automatically puts a link to your talk page, as well as the date and time of your post. Hope this help you. --Tod Naturlich (talk) 22:41, 14 July 2017 (UTC)