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Why is the only magic you know "false negative" not listed with the rest of the Concealment magic? Is it so secret that nobody else knows it? I feel it should appear on the list. --[[User:Tod Naturlich|Tod Naturlich]] ([[User talk:Tod Naturlich|talk]]) 21:23, 28 May 2018 (CEST)
Why is the only magic you know "false negative" not listed with the rest of the Concealment magic? Is it so secret that nobody else knows it? I feel it should appear on the list. --[[User:Tod Naturlich|Tod Naturlich]] ([[User talk:Tod Naturlich|talk]]) 21:23, 28 May 2018 (CEST)
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Quite simple, I accidentally wrote "positive" instead of "negative." There should be no "false positive" under concealment magic. I've corrected the error. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 01:13, 29 May 2018 (CEST)
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I was thinking perhaps both magic existed. The "false positive" was used to simulate something was there when it really wasn't, and the "false negative" was to simulate something wasn't there, when it really was. I assumed the "false positive" was known, and thus measures were taken to prevent it's use, but the protagonist use of "false negative" was not so well known, and thus he managed to get away with things. --[[User:Tod Naturlich|Tod Naturlich]] ([[User talk:Tod Naturlich|talk]]) 01:33, 29 May 2018 (CEST)
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"False positive" doesn't fit the motif of "concealment." Concealment magic only hides things. It's supposed to be that concealment magic, regardless of how many people actually have it, is just about completely unknown due to how well the holders of it conceal themselves. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 01:55, 29 May 2018 (CEST)
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"False positive" can very much fit the motif of "concealment" when it's used as a method to deflect blame. "You say there's a little girl that's pregnant and she's under my care? well, have you looked to her neighbor?" --[[User:Quiller|Quiller]] ([[User talk:Quiller|talk]]) 05:00, 29 May 2018 (CEST)
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Hmm... guess that's worth consideration. I'll have to think about that one. Of course, there is also the question of whether or not that line of approach can be implemented in the game. So, if fullmetal or I can think of a way to implement it, I will revisit the concept of adding the spell. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 05:29, 29 May 2018 (CEST)
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Instead of calling it "False positive" you could term it as "Plant Evidence". In keeping with the game theme, you could have a "Heat" mechanic. From the description of some of the other spells, it sounds like one is kinda planned. "Plant Evidence" is a last-ditch spell when used defensively. It massively lowers heat at the expense of raising the "Global heat". If the kid remains in your care after the "Plant Evidence" then they are tagged as at risk of further molestation and any new actions involving them raise heat at 3x the normal rate, Also since there are child molesters on people's minds then any action with any child will raise your personal heat as an advanced rate until things blow over a bit. The true beauty of "Plant Evidence" comes from the fact that it can also be used offensively. The local priest is speaking out against you? well, now he's a kiddy diddler. Maybe you can now buy his church as a new building (and a source for sacrilegious fetish sex). There should be a few ways to make the priest be willing to offer his church for sale. Everything from charming him to corrupting to mind control to planting evidence against him and watching him be hauled away. --[[User:Quiller|Quiller]] ([[User talk:Quiller|talk]]) 06:44, 29 May 2018 (CEST)
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Why is there no manipulation/mind control magic? If there are values for exposure, love and trust, shouldn't there be magic to at the least, increase their growth? I mean, if you falsely raise it enough to do something, and it then falls lower than the threshold, you'd get in trouble when they tell someone. If, however, there was a spell to relax their inhibitions and encourage certain behaviors, then it would speed up increasing say, exposure, so they don't mind running around naked sooner. Or increase trust or love more rapidly as it enhances the impact of small things you do. It would raise trust by 5, but with the spell in place reinforcing the "lesson" it instead raises it 15. --[[User:Notsooldpervert|Notsooldpervert]] ([[User talk:Notsooldpervert|talk]]) 18:46, 24 June 2018 (CEST)
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So first a little remark there is a spell to heal vaginal prolapse, but none for anal prolapse. In a second time does some kind of magic seal so the girl can't get pregnant is present ? With just the name I don't think there's one yet but could be hidden under a non explicit name. Now into new and more shady spell some spell to make part of the body more erogenous or the opposite so it could help with some fetish. Foot for example cast a little spell and abracadra the girl as more nerve in her feet than in her vagina and get so much pleasure with it.Yeah, it could be tons of work because users will definitely try it on everything from tips of the foot to the hair but the sky is the limit right ;). In reality feeling an internal cumshot is not really likely it's more a vague sensation even in mouth, it's more the taste that is spot first and then by over analyzing the actual stream of sperm, but we can probably fix that with magic and even better maybe make them have a happy/satisfied feeling when receiving sperm or a sad/disgust feeling about it this again could open new doors.[[User:JackalTomb|JackalTomb]] ([[User talk:JackalTomb|talk]]) 13:44, 10 July 2018 (CEST)
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I might think about it, but for the most part I designed the sex magic to be in line with the world-building about how it came to exist in the first place. That the elves, who are a sexually conservative race to start with, created it in order to solve their fertility problem. As such, it is not likely for them to have a pregnancy prevention spell, and at the same time not likely for it to contain any spells that go in the kinky direction. I suppose it could be justified through having it be a new innovation after it got into the hands of other races, but again, I will have to think about that. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 20:04, 10 July 2018 (CEST)
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Since the body grows faster than the mind in elves society, it could be a safe measure to prevent an early pregnancy or could be used for elves that go outside of the elves' territory, so they don't fall in disgrace by giving birth to half elves or some other kind of cross blood and so preserve the purity of the bloodline. I don't know the relation you imagine between elves and beastfolk but could be a way to slow them since they can be on the same kind of territory and save resources.... For kink spell agree for background reasons can't be put up by elves [[User:JackalTomb|JackalTomb]] ([[User talk:JackalTomb|talk]]) 14:12, 11 July 2018 (CEST)
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Hmm... I could see that. Also, FYI on that note, the reason the elves don't have some kind of defense against the "advance puberty" effects the trigger ovulation and increase sperm production spells have if cast on a pre-pubescent is that they actually don't know it happens. They would never even think of casting that spell on a child, and the humans who have done so obviously would not admit to it. (I think I'm going to set the time-scale here fairly early into the Elve's integration into human society. Maybe 10 or so years in.) At any rate, I guess pregnancy prevention measures would exist, but it's not likely to be a particularly popular spell among the Elves. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 23:09, 11 July 2018 (CEST)

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Why is the only magic you know "false negative" not listed with the rest of the Concealment magic? Is it so secret that nobody else knows it? I feel it should appear on the list. --Tod Naturlich (talk) 21:23, 28 May 2018 (CEST)


Quite simple, I accidentally wrote "positive" instead of "negative." There should be no "false positive" under concealment magic. I've corrected the error. Jemini (talk) 01:13, 29 May 2018 (CEST)



I was thinking perhaps both magic existed. The "false positive" was used to simulate something was there when it really wasn't, and the "false negative" was to simulate something wasn't there, when it really was. I assumed the "false positive" was known, and thus measures were taken to prevent it's use, but the protagonist use of "false negative" was not so well known, and thus he managed to get away with things. --Tod Naturlich (talk) 01:33, 29 May 2018 (CEST)



"False positive" doesn't fit the motif of "concealment." Concealment magic only hides things. It's supposed to be that concealment magic, regardless of how many people actually have it, is just about completely unknown due to how well the holders of it conceal themselves. Jemini (talk) 01:55, 29 May 2018 (CEST)


"False positive" can very much fit the motif of "concealment" when it's used as a method to deflect blame. "You say there's a little girl that's pregnant and she's under my care? well, have you looked to her neighbor?" --Quiller (talk) 05:00, 29 May 2018 (CEST)


Hmm... guess that's worth consideration. I'll have to think about that one. Of course, there is also the question of whether or not that line of approach can be implemented in the game. So, if fullmetal or I can think of a way to implement it, I will revisit the concept of adding the spell. Jemini (talk) 05:29, 29 May 2018 (CEST)


Instead of calling it "False positive" you could term it as "Plant Evidence". In keeping with the game theme, you could have a "Heat" mechanic. From the description of some of the other spells, it sounds like one is kinda planned. "Plant Evidence" is a last-ditch spell when used defensively. It massively lowers heat at the expense of raising the "Global heat". If the kid remains in your care after the "Plant Evidence" then they are tagged as at risk of further molestation and any new actions involving them raise heat at 3x the normal rate, Also since there are child molesters on people's minds then any action with any child will raise your personal heat as an advanced rate until things blow over a bit. The true beauty of "Plant Evidence" comes from the fact that it can also be used offensively. The local priest is speaking out against you? well, now he's a kiddy diddler. Maybe you can now buy his church as a new building (and a source for sacrilegious fetish sex). There should be a few ways to make the priest be willing to offer his church for sale. Everything from charming him to corrupting to mind control to planting evidence against him and watching him be hauled away. --Quiller (talk) 06:44, 29 May 2018 (CEST)


Why is there no manipulation/mind control magic? If there are values for exposure, love and trust, shouldn't there be magic to at the least, increase their growth? I mean, if you falsely raise it enough to do something, and it then falls lower than the threshold, you'd get in trouble when they tell someone. If, however, there was a spell to relax their inhibitions and encourage certain behaviors, then it would speed up increasing say, exposure, so they don't mind running around naked sooner. Or increase trust or love more rapidly as it enhances the impact of small things you do. It would raise trust by 5, but with the spell in place reinforcing the "lesson" it instead raises it 15. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 18:46, 24 June 2018 (CEST)


So first a little remark there is a spell to heal vaginal prolapse, but none for anal prolapse. In a second time does some kind of magic seal so the girl can't get pregnant is present ? With just the name I don't think there's one yet but could be hidden under a non explicit name. Now into new and more shady spell some spell to make part of the body more erogenous or the opposite so it could help with some fetish. Foot for example cast a little spell and abracadra the girl as more nerve in her feet than in her vagina and get so much pleasure with it.Yeah, it could be tons of work because users will definitely try it on everything from tips of the foot to the hair but the sky is the limit right ;). In reality feeling an internal cumshot is not really likely it's more a vague sensation even in mouth, it's more the taste that is spot first and then by over analyzing the actual stream of sperm, but we can probably fix that with magic and even better maybe make them have a happy/satisfied feeling when receiving sperm or a sad/disgust feeling about it this again could open new doors.JackalTomb (talk) 13:44, 10 July 2018 (CEST)


I might think about it, but for the most part I designed the sex magic to be in line with the world-building about how it came to exist in the first place. That the elves, who are a sexually conservative race to start with, created it in order to solve their fertility problem. As such, it is not likely for them to have a pregnancy prevention spell, and at the same time not likely for it to contain any spells that go in the kinky direction. I suppose it could be justified through having it be a new innovation after it got into the hands of other races, but again, I will have to think about that. Jemini (talk) 20:04, 10 July 2018 (CEST)


Since the body grows faster than the mind in elves society, it could be a safe measure to prevent an early pregnancy or could be used for elves that go outside of the elves' territory, so they don't fall in disgrace by giving birth to half elves or some other kind of cross blood and so preserve the purity of the bloodline. I don't know the relation you imagine between elves and beastfolk but could be a way to slow them since they can be on the same kind of territory and save resources.... For kink spell agree for background reasons can't be put up by elves JackalTomb (talk) 14:12, 11 July 2018 (CEST)


Hmm... I could see that. Also, FYI on that note, the reason the elves don't have some kind of defense against the "advance puberty" effects the trigger ovulation and increase sperm production spells have if cast on a pre-pubescent is that they actually don't know it happens. They would never even think of casting that spell on a child, and the humans who have done so obviously would not admit to it. (I think I'm going to set the time-scale here fairly early into the Elve's integration into human society. Maybe 10 or so years in.) At any rate, I guess pregnancy prevention measures would exist, but it's not likely to be a particularly popular spell among the Elves. Jemini (talk) 23:09, 11 July 2018 (CEST)