Talk:Disciplinary Action/Punishment Guidelines

What constitutes "baby doll" pajamas? The kind with feet, or the lingerie? (Forgot to sign) --Notsooldpervert (talk) 07:19, 4 September 2017 (CEST)

Well, google translate failed me again. What I originally thought about was a one piece sleepwear that children used, but a simple image search for "baby doll" shows much more lingerie than what I had in mind. I had something like this in mind: hxxps://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGnO7df-VDa6mTO-lz0VIEGtzNX4cJsMGKQBpEIs4jzsPQzxHvfg (Change the hxxps for https). What would you call that? I need to edit both the guidelines and chapters with a better name. --Tod Naturlich (talk) 07:46, 4 September 2017 (CEST)

I'd call those "footie pajamas". A "onsey" is what babies wear, these are definitely pajamas. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 08:01, 4 September 2017 (CEST)

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Does a second infraction automatically raise the punishment to the next tier? I understand that wearing a diaper again wouldn't have the same effect, but stepping up to the partial nudity would still be effective. For instance, say at the end of the week after wearing a diaper for 2 days, Suzy is distracted in class again, make her go topless or just her panties. Might make for a slower buildup. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 08:12, 4 September 2017 (CEST)

The guidelines are pretty generic and left to the interpretation of the one implementing them, so it really depends on the depravity of the teacher. I do like slower buildups, so I will tend to make as many increments as possible (except when I'm horny, then I tend to just write sex scenes, but with this wiki format, both can coexists). --Tod Naturlich (talk) 04:04, 5 September 2017 (CEST)

Guidelines Suggestions

I think for the Middle Infractions, boys should be punished similarly to the girls. Since they wear pants, the going without underwear means less, so in the controlled nudity, either make them forgo pants and just wear underwear, or make them dress like a girl. Emasculating the boys might be similar to stripping the girls. I think the Invasion of Private Space would be similar for both, just with someone who likes boys doing it.

For the Serious infractions.... Virginity loss means something very different for boys, unless it's anal virginity. There's also making them perform oral sex on a man. That can be done in private so that people may know, but it's behind closed doors.

Since they can't get pregnant, I'm thinking public nudity, possibly with a butt plug. For the steps up, perform oral sex on a man in public, then get publicly ass fucked. Not the same as a girl getting pregnant, but since that would eventually be public knowledge, having the boys do it in public would be on par. Especially if you can make them cum from being ass fucked.

Again, since I'm not personally interested in these, I'd prefer that the protagonist find a willing surrogate to perform the punishment. "I" can oversee it and give instructions to whomever the helper is. Same if you get a female to do the oral on boys for the lesser infractions. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 04:31, 7 September 2017 (CEST)

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I updated the guidelines to include punishments for boys. I used a lot of your suggestions. The society I'm portraying in this town is very prudish and hypocrite, that's why they prefer to force a victim to marry her rapist before accepting sex before marriage. They also have a lot of retrogressive ideas about homosexuality, so even if the deacon and maybe even the headmaster have gay tendencies, they will say gay man are no better than the devil. Please comment if you think I went too far or too light on any of the punishments. --Tod Naturlich (talk) 06:04, 7 September 2017 (CEST)

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I can see that, but I can also see them blaming the student for "making" them perform a homosexual act. They could act self righteously by publicly condemning it (especially if the boy is "perverse" enough to cum from it) while secretly enjoying it. I never even thought of orgasm denial or chemical castration.

It's easy enough to break the pridefully naked boy by making fun of the size of his equipment. Even if that doesn't work, they'll re-offend and can get something they won't like. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 18:42, 7 September 2017 (CEST)

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You're right, but I think they would not write things so explicitly on the document (this is supposed to be a in-world document, after all); but the way the actual punishment would be executed would probably be the way you describe it. As far as the chemical castration I'm still unsure if that is going too far, I would like more opinions on the matter. --Tod Naturlich (talk) 00:51, 8 September 2017 (CEST)

It could also be a secondary punishment that isn't written down, just done in the background "for the good of the comunity". Breed out those dangerous elements. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 03:33, 8 September 2017 (CEST)

It might also be part of the "curiculum" at the satelite school.--Notsooldpervert (talk) 03:35, 8 September 2017 (CEST)

yea, chemical castration is two steps too far --Foalpoots (talk) 04:13, 8 September 2017 (CEST)

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You're right, chemical castration it's way to extreme for the actual document, even though it might happen as you said in the special class, depending on how dark the story get once we get there. For now I'll remove it from the guidelines.

Happy to have another commenter, Foalpoots. Please feel free to comment on anything you like or dislike for the story; anything you say will help me improve the story and become a better writer. --Tod Naturlich (talk) 04:34, 8 September 2017 (CEST)

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Ok, with the note I saw in the discussion between Tod and DrArlithe over on the Dr's talk page, I thought I might do some of that fine-tuning that the guidelines were said to need with a complete re-write with more legalese as well as a few expansions of scope and specificity to make the document a lot harder to misinterpret. Of course, the current form will be used, with possibly some consideration based on suggestions to make the punishments more equal between the genders. Jemini (talk) 14:25, 3 October 2017 (CEST)

Ok, I have finished my overhaul. There is still plenty of room for minor edits, additions, or fine-tunign though. (You may note that, as DrAlithe complained about, I removed the sexually penetrative punishments for boys from the mid-level punishments and moved them to the lowest tier of the severe level.) Jemini (talk) 22:11, 3 October 2017 (CEST)

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Wow! Amazing update to the guidelines. I can't believe I started this story only four months ago and it's already grown so much beyond my expectations. Thanks Jemini, as well as all others that have contributed to improve the story! I took a trip to the past, viewing the first version I wrote of this file, where I only considered punishments for girls and left a lot of things to the imagination. Its amazing how much it has evolved since then, and I'm very happy for the interest it has received.

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I love how the new rules for girls in 3rd grade and under work so well with the treatment the nurse is giving the children. Wonder how many virgin pregnancies there will be of children who had no idea anything happening until their panties start getting tight. --Tod Naturlich (talk) 22:20, 4 October 2017 (CEST)

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Virgin pregnancies? Can't wait to see that! Both the growing and the insemination.

Would there ever come a point where public nudity is used? Say Liliana, pissed at forced impregnation, continues to act out. Could she be upgraded to having to attend class naked and dripping cum, possibly getting a refill at lunch? Maybe naked and dripping cum for the rest of the year, even outside of school? --Notsooldpervert (talk) 21:36, 7 October 2017 (CEST)

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You might want to vary the severity of the cursing. Mild would be appropriate for High School age, but younger than that it might be considered Moderate. Taking the Lord's Name in vain should probably bump it up a level, too, maybe two levels if its especially vituperative or blasphemous. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 20:29, 11 October 2017 (CEST)

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I think we could probably say my original version is what Ms. Varano wrote, and then the modified version I just put up were modifications made at the church decon's urging. Jemini (talk) 22:36, 11 October 2017 (CEST)

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Now I'm thinking we need a little more information about the deacon. Any suggestions? --Tod Naturlich (talk) 01:30, 12 October 2017 (CEST)