User talk:Foalpoots

Jemini

Honestly, "Invasion!" is not a concept that has grabbed my attention all that well. Normally I would consider helping a little for the sake of helping another writer, but my plate is a little full right now to the point I'm already pushing off some of the concepts I actually AM interested in. ... hmmm... I might consider giving the story a read-over if I come up with the time between the normal projects. I'm currently planning on hitting my new story, "WBWP," posting in some RPs, and then trying again to do some coding work on "The Lewd House." After I have done all that I might try to take a look. Jemini (talk) 22:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

FYI: I only really accept 1 request per list of options at a time, maybe 2 on rare occasions. If you go down selecting an entire list down the line, I just don't respond to it. The purpose of requests is to give me a direction to start from, a direction that will please the fans most. Just selecting down the entire list kinda defeats the purpose of that. (Plus, I have some mild autism, so it actually does overload my brain and literally makes me unable to process it.) Jemini (talk) 03:29, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. My autistic brain is comfortable with this now. I will probably respond to people who have only one item on their list first, but I will begin work on your requests soon once I get a decent block of time to work. Jemini (talk) 03:02, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

That's how sci-fi works I'm afraid. If you try to create something that is a sci-fi creature, hard sci-fi fans such as myself who have some understanding of biology, engineering, quantum physics, or some other relevant area of study will come out of the wood-work and point out how your creation would work in the real world under the principals of the discipline which they understand. Also, I am not trying to impose my world-view on you or turn your species straight. They can be completely gay if you want them to be, but I am pointing out that reproduction via anal sex will only work within the species using the justification you came up with. It will not work, at least not well, for inter-species reproduction. If you would re-read the passage I wrote, I did acknowledge what you were trying to do and pointed out the areas and conditions under which it would work. I have medical knowledge, and I know a fair amount about the human immune system and how the human body fights off infection from bacterial,viral, and fungal agents, and the human anus is simply hostile to the extreme to any and all forms of fungus. It is highly efficient at fighting off fungal infection. The only way your speicies can reproduce anally is with other members of their own species who presumably have adapted their colons to function for reproductive purposes. (This was why I stated in my first post that you should have a good understanding of how the system works naturally before you try to write your own new rules.) Jemini (talk) 07:25, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

FOLLOW-UP: Really, it's nothing against you, and it is seriously none of the things you are accusing me of. I have already told you I am somewhat autistic. For me, the world is organized according to certain rules, and it is fairly difficult to accept sci-fi that is not of the "hard" sci-fi persuasion. This goes double due to the fact that the other species Elerneron created were very well thought out and fit in the "hard" denomination of sci-fi. Your species, however, seems to be less about thinking about what is possible within the realm of hard sci-fi as a way a species could exist that is interesting, and more about just wish fulfillment with no reference to any of the laws of physics, and showing no understanding of how fairly basic biology works that any 1st-year med student would know. This is supposed to be an RP about aliens interbreeding with earth life, and you have designed a species that is incapable of interbreeding with earth-life. It can only breed with its own kind if you were to keep to the biology realistic, and failure to keep the biology realistic is something that makes me cringe to the point that I would consider any work based on such a lack of knowledge unreadable. In my way, I was honestly trying to help you by lending some knowledge on things you had clearly overlooked due to ignorance of biology. If you do not want that kind of help though, I suppose I can understand that. Jemini (talk) 10:52, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Look, I understand that you're frustrated and lashing out. I am certain I responded to that frustration by crossing a few lines in my last couple comments. However, you are continuing to characterize the both of us and making attributions that simply are not there. I would have to suggest some time away to calm down. Also, in response to what you wrote on Elerneron's page, Elerneron's content uses a soft sci-fi technique of introducing unknown factors for the matter of warp engines, and also yes it actually is quite possible for a carbon based bio-organism to have metallic bone structures. They simply need the right bacteria in their system to process metal, and the right cells adapted to deposit it in a hollow porous structure. If said conditions are met, titanium bones will function much the same way our calcium/magnesium based bones do, except that they would be harder. They would not quite be AS hard as pure titanium, but they would be less brittle than pure titanium due to the way it was laid out, and that would make it very well suited for bone structure. Getting back to your creation, unfortunately you are dealing in 100% known factors, which puts it solidly in the realm of hard sci-fi to judge it. You can only go to soft sci-fi if you are using unknown factors. As such, it is possible to buy the shape-shifting, but not the fungal infection of an organ that is well designed to resist fungal infection. Jemini (talk) 05:04, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

So, 9267 helix, mind explaining how the RNA transcription works in that model? Or mitosis for that matter? Extra helixes are really just a liability to DNA's ability to function. 9267 chromosomes on the other hand would be a perfectly viable model, it would actually be massive overkill as you could probably code the blueprints for all living organisms in the entire universe on around 100 chromosomes of double-helix DNA given all life on earth has their DNA perfectly identical from one species to the next for 90% of the information in their DNA with only 10% separating the most dissimilar creatures, and then you just use epigenetic tags to activate or deactivate certain chromosomes according to what is and isn't needed. But then, at least you are only off in a soft sci-fi manner this time, although adding chromosomes is still a better fix than adding helixes. Jemini (talk) 04:05, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

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Twinklestar

Thank you for adding to the story. please find me on "the site" I am going to add stuff to the writers discussion board about the story.

again.. thank you.

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Tod Naturlich

I'm curious what does "heptahexacontadictanonaliahelical" means. My greek only get me that "hepta" is seven, and "hexa" is sixteen, but I don't know the rest, so I don't know how many helixes that is, and how are they configured. --Tod Naturlich (talk) 01:08, 29 June 2017 (UTC) ---

Thanks for your request, I'll try to fulfill it. One thing I'm very bad at are names, so I'm still not satisfied with the names of the Winterkin pack. Could you offer some suggestions? --Tod Naturlich (talk) 23:58, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Elerneron

The best way to make a new race for Invasion!, I think, would be for you to copy one of the existing races. Before writing anything, make sure you are familiar with the Format Rules for the site. The next step would be to edit the Invading Species section of the Invasion! main page. Copy one of the entries, and change it to fit your new species. Next, copy the profile page of one of the races IN EDIT MODE; then go back to the first page of Invasion!, click on your race's profile link, paste into the blank page that shows up, change the information to fit your race, then save the changes. If you get too lost, I'll be glad to help. Once you have the profile done, the next part is to start the story. The most challenging part would be to format the template I think. There is a sample in the Invasion!/Rules page that should give you a starting point. If you need more help, let me know. --Elerneron (talk) 02:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Anyone born on a planet is a resident of that planet, and therefore cannot be considered an alien (if you're born somewhere you aren't an alien after all). In that way, your race would not be violating the law against having more than five of their people on Earth . . . because those people aren't their people but Earthlings . . . albient non-human Earthlings. --Elerneron (talk) 02:51, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Not to fan any flames, but I felt I have to respond to your assertion that "sci-fi works however you want it to work!" on Jemini's talk page. As a science fiction and fantasy writer I can tell you that your statement is completely inaccurate for science fiction, especially hard science fiction. Science fiction is rooted in real science to the best of our abilities as science fiction writers. What you are describing is science fantasy. Science fantasy is basically science fiction that is written with the mentality of a fantasy work. In science fantasy, as long as the rules are understood, you can break the laws of physics willy-nilly. I generally do not like, nor do I write, science fantasy (Star Wars is an example of science fantasy . . . and also an exception to my dislike). The furthest I will go is soft science fiction (Star Trek is soft science fiction). I don't want you to quit writing on the story. That isn't my intention at all. I fully encourage you to continue writing. With enough imagination I am sure you can come up with a reason that the race is only interested in male humans, even if it is just cultural. --Elerneron (talk) 02:58, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply. Your question is a complicated one, and would likely be so even for the Galactic Council. If a race used cloning as their sole form of reproduction, it would definitely qualify as "birth". If it is one of several forms of reproduction available to the species it gets a bit less definite. If the race rarely or never uses cloning for reproduction then it definitely does not count for the rules of the Galactic Council. Use your best judgement. Your branch of the story is your own. I may give guidance from time to time, but I'm not going to say you can't do this, or can't do that on your branch of the story. --Elerneron (talk) 00:45, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

An act of genocide against any group of another sentient species that are not member species of the race committing genocide would definitely be illegal by Galactic law. Convincing the humans to do it themselves, or waiting until after Earth is declared a part of their government would make it none of the Galactic Council's business, however. --Elerneron (talk) 00:29, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

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Since the process changes the humans into your a member of your race completely, it would be VERY difficult to argue that they are still human, even if they once were human. It would be a complicated legal battle, and one that your race probably wouldn't want to mess with as a "cease and desist" order would probably the first order of business of the opposition. Also you must consider that enslaving a segment of the population is a risky maneuver in the current political climate. This could result in military action to overthrow the regimes that put it in place. Extreme actions like you are describing would be best put off until near the end of the Invasion when the race has control over the majority of the planet, or by using humans to inflict the punishments on themselves through indoctrination, mind control, etc. Otherwise a slower process may be in order.

One thing that COULD happen in your story (if you feel it fits) is that the Galactic Council could rule that the transformed Humans are actually Chromarans; and therefore are limited to no more than 5 individuals on the planet. Because of the transformative nature of your race's reproductive model, it is a logical step for the Council to take to try to stop the invasion. It is a likely scenario, but you shouldn't feel that you have to use it.

Your race COULD simply ignore the rules of the Council if they feel things go too far . . . they seem to be a rather powerful race, and stand a better chance than most in the war that such an action would inevitably bring. Their belief system would lead to war with the Galactic council at some point anyway, as the Council would feel obliged to stop the eradication of the galaxy's females. It's just a matter of time. The Chomarans might just decide that since it is going to happen anyway, why not start right away. This would, of course, change the nature of the story drastically, as it would become a war epic thereafter. --Elerneron (talk) 01:19, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

MrPib

When posting URLs on the site (like on Verkabe's talk page) avoid special characters.

The url in your omnibox may look like

https://stories.allthefallen.ninja/index.php?title=Talk:Invasion!

But in reality you want to decode the exclamation mark, so that the page can link properly

https://stories.allthefallen.ninja/index.php?title=Talk:Invasion%21

If you notice, the ! is not added to the URL hyperlink if it's the last character

--MrPib (talk) 08:00, 17 January 2019 (CET)

Imperial

Hello there, I've just made a suggestion that I hope would help with user retention and activity but due to its location I'm not sure enough users will see it to give a feedback.

It'd be great if you could give it at least a cursory glance. If the idea sounds stupid feel free to say so, I'm hoping we can brainstorm something better out of what I wrote. Thanks.

Suggestion: Common Areas -- Imperial (talk) 06:22, 11 June 2019 (CEST)