Talk:Mother's Helping Hand/Start/Virgin/MC/Low Magic/Her?
Sounds like the Devereux girls are in trouble now. Will Helen let him knock them up, or will that be Princess to encourage that. Seems to me, if they bring out the hidden desire as a form of mind control, that it would be done by making the girls want it so bad they beg him to knock them up. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 03:05, 5 March 2020 (CET)
I Request that Jack not "give up" as that would be a step back and the opposite of what everyone is trying to achieve. Telgar (talk) 18:36, 4 March 2020 (PST)
I didn't really see it as "giving up", but more of... adjusting to the situation and seeing what was going to happen. They obviously have their own idea of who they're going to bring in. I would have asked why I couldn't pick my own first girl, without making myself seem unwilling to help punish these two girls. Then again, I'm not quite as emasculated as Jack lol --Notsooldpervert (talk) 04:03, 5 March 2020 (CET)
I was going according to what Jack's character is supposed to be. I don't see it as all that much of a step back, he would have to have made progress forward in order for it to count as a step back. The way I see it, he's just not assertive enough to keep demanding and pressing on right now, so this just provides a benchmark in order to measure his future improvement by. You've gotta start him off weak in order to make it more gratifying when he finally starts learning to be assertive. The entire premise looses it's punch if he's able to do something as bold as overcome Helen on the first day before his training has even started.
(Also, my idea was that she was using a very weak mind control on him saying that he could not have sex with her unless he can become assertive. She wants to naturally nurture and encourage his manliness, not control him and make him act out the motions. And, yes, she would have absolutely had sex with him if he had overcome this effect, and she would have enjoyed it. It was basically like a little test to see both where he is and if he's worthy, she's probably disappointed he failed it.) Jemini (talk) 04:21, 5 March 2020 (CET)