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Ok, I wound up making the mind-controlled Deverux twins a 1 1/2 point conquest | Ok, I wound up making the mind-controlled Deverux twins a 1 1/2 point conquest. Well, I guess that can still work. It mostly reflects the points required to make it consensual sex, and this route had a lot of talk about going either way with them. So, that actually works out almost exactly right. [[User:Jemini|Jemini]] ([[User talk:Jemini|talk]]) 16:33, 9 March 2020 (CET) | ||
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So, basically a points system designed to guide the writers in how difficult they should make it? I actually think it's a good idea because I have noticed I have a bit of a tendency to make the situation work out for the MC no matter what. Having a point system that tells me it won't work will allow my mind to stop looking for ways to make it work and start looking for ways that it will fail due to the fact the numbers say it just doesn't work.
All that said, I think we need to have some of the points in action to see how it goes. Maybe make some modifications based on how it all works out. And, actually, I would like to run the points on Amanda House since I have made some changes to her motivation behind looking up all she knows about sex. Jemini (talk) 14:14, 9 March 2020 (CET)
Great yeah do that and let me know, we might have to tweak numbers or add more modifiers to make sure the girls fall where they should. Okay did the numbers for Mom and Lori. As the points currently stand Lori has 10 pts, Mom has 6 1/2. However she lost a half point due to the deep rooted known pedo, and impregnation fetishes we put into the latest stuff with Dannie, if she gets more fetishes or the ones she has move up surface, meaning she embrace's them, her points will drop fast. So at the start of the story she is a strong 7 currently dropping to a 5 1/2 to 6 1/2. telgar (talk) 06:17, 9 March 2020 (PST)
So I was thinking instead of flooding the points page with calculations once we get it hashed out, we just add a number under the pic in the bio. That gives the points at the start of the story and writers can adjust as they write. Also any permanent point changes caused by what is written can be mentioned in the start of the talk of the effecting page. For example:
Maredith Martin - 1/2 pt. Total 6 pt.
Deep Rooted Known fetish: -1/4 pt.
Deep Rooted Known fetish: -1/4 pt.
Added this chapter.
telgar (talk) 06:17, 9 March 2020 (PST)
Just corrected some bad math with Aunt Lori there. It looks like you added the negatives on her instead of subtracting them.Jemini (talk) 15:07, 9 March 2020 (CET)
I think I'm going to work up the Deverux twins now. I want to also add "Hellen Moon's mind manipulation" to the mix as their own class of negatives, but I would like to figure that one up after I've worked up the Deverux twin's base point value so I can balance it so they are currently either a 1/2 or a 1 on the mind control route. Jemini (talk) 15:12, 9 March 2020 (CET)
Would Allister be 99 points? Basically, the only way to initially fuck Jodie would be to knock her unconscious and then once Jodie takes over, she has her own point value of 0-3 --MrPib (talk) 15:22, 9 March 2020 (CET)
Another thing to take into account, would be points added by mental resolve (meditation/martial arts training) --MrPib (talk) 15:26, 9 March 2020 (CET)
As someone who has had martial arts experience, what martial arts does is it makes you more comfortable with who you are. It does not make you more stubborn. Mostly, it mellows you and at the same time also makes you more confident. If there is anything to be added for that, it would probably go in the reversible section. Something like "true confidence." Might also add a "shallow/false confidence" to that as well.
BTW: You counted Celestial/Deity on Hellen Moon twice, I fixed that up a little. Jemini (talk) 15:33, 9 March 2020 (CET)
That was on purpose with Helen, one was for race, one was for Religion Celestial Beings should be hard to seduce. As for Alistair he is a 6. Only because his body is under the compulsion to mate, with enough work the hormones and compulsion could override him.
telgar (talk) 07:42, 9 March 2020 (PST)
That still feels pretty cheaty to me. It seems like there's a few mental gymnastics there in order to count the same thing twice. Being a celestial deity herself, she wouldn't have a religion. Rather, she would define it. If she's supposed to be hard to seduce, there's probably a need to find some other points to add in there that would make more sense. Jemini (talk) 15:51, 9 March 2020 (CET)
Okay good point changes Celestial/Dirty Race to Otherworldly, so it applies to all Otherworldly beings, not just Celestial. telgar (talk) 08:11, 9 March 2020 (PST)
Ok, I wound up making the mind-controlled Deverux twins a 1 1/2 point conquest. Well, I guess that can still work. It mostly reflects the points required to make it consensual sex, and this route had a lot of talk about going either way with them. So, that actually works out almost exactly right. Jemini (talk) 16:33, 9 March 2020 (CET)