Talk:Smooth Operator/Gabby's Party/Tara/Premature
Something to keep in mind here, Tara is 7. That being the case, pain and the weird sensations of sex are more likely to freak her out. That is, unless she has been told some things about sex already. While the setting has been that elementary-school level sex ed is far lower in this world, girls that have a brother could very easily be an exception to that. She could have easily been told some things by Jordan who was excited after learning from Matt, or she might have heard from her mom telling her that at some point Jordan might want to do those sorts of things with her. I know you had some plans for setting up the way Jordan's mother is though, so I will leave that one up to you. Just some food for thought. Jemini (talk) 02:58, 25 February 2019 (CET)
Yeah, I've got plans for that, you know how Matt has given him "Materials" to look at, she's going to be the nosey, clingy, brocon little sister who stumbles upon either videos on his computer or the magazines, or maybe a biology book, theirs a few options I have in my head. BluePanda (talk) 21:34, 24 February 2019 (CET)
Well, sounds all good then, carry on. Jemini (talk) 04:44, 25 February 2019 (CET)
Oh, but also, cum inflation is not an IRL physiologically possible thing. For one, a guy ejaculating a tablespoon of semen would be considered a HUGE load, and that much could likely be easily accommodated by the uterus of an infant without a single abnormality (so long as it wasn't delivered via the penis that is, there's no way an infant's vagina could take a penis.) For two, there are several escape points in the uterus that would deflate it even if a gallon of cum was put into her. For one, the falopian tubes are actually open to the abdominal cavity. This means any excess fluids can flow out into the abdominal cavity where the fat and the outsides of the intestines are. For two, if there is a high pressure amount of fluid inside that even exceeds that, the cervix can allow fluid to flow back out.
At any rate, to even show physical signs it would take around 1/10 the girl's body weight in fluids filling her. For a 7 year old, this would mean 4-5 lbs, or a full gallon of cum. Without even doing the math, I can tell you that would exceed 100X the size of the average ejaculation.
All that said, cum inflation is a fetish a few people have, so it's up to you whether to include it or not. It just irks me a little since I know the physical biology behind it. (I used to like the idea of cervical penetration myself until I learned the biology behind it, knowing the actual biology makes several fetishes just not enjoyable anymore.) Jemini (talk) 04:57, 25 February 2019 (CET)
Errr.... sorry to have to say this when you clearly just corrected something based on what I said earlier, but now you have him seeing something he should only be seeing after his penis is removed. If he can see the blood in the semen while his penis is still inside after a premature ejaculation from just sticking it in, it means she's bleeding quite a bit.
Again, maybe you actually do want that to be the story. Girls actually bleed different amounts when they loose their virginity, and the hymen thins during puberty which means it would be thicker and thus bleed more for a child if it ruptures. Then again, being thicker in a child could also lower the chance of it rupturing and increase the likelihood of it stretching instead. (FYI: The hymen is not fully ripped away until one of two things happen. 1. She gives birth via the natural method. 2. She has her hymen surgically removed. There are always some reminents of the hymen left just from penetration by the penis and it is likely to try to heal a bit unless she is having frequent sexual intercourse. Frequent sexual intercourse can stretch the hymen permanently, but not eliminate it completely. Tearing is also frequent when it is stretched by the penis, especially the first time, which is the reason for the bleeding when she "looses her cherry")
SIDE NOTE: Things like this are the actual way you get good at writing. 1. You learn a lot about the subject you are writing on. 2. You use your knowledge on the subject to always be thinking of the consiquences of the actions your characters are taking. That said, I also often don't go into the details of loosing virginity as I just detailed above and instead just go along with the common myths just because it's easier and explaining the true medical facts would take too much effort mid story. The bigger issue in the case of this passage now is just that Jordan can see the pink while his penis is still inside. It's possible that it can be seen if he looks really closely, but it's a little bit of a hard sell to say he's looking that closely. It will be plainly obvious after removing his penis though. Jemini (talk) 22:29, 1 March 2019 (CET)
To try and make you feel a bit better about being corrected twice here, you're hardly the first person to have some little relatively insignificant section of a story you just can't get quite right. I had one person I worked with who was not a native English speaker who had horrible trouble handling the word "pajamas" correctly. He kept trying to drop the "s" and make it singular. Seems like a reasonable assumption to make for a non native English speaker. Unfortunately, "pajamas" is one of those very strange exceptions in the English language and he just couldn't seem to get it right and I kept having to tell him over and over again until we were both bashing our heads against the wall. Jemini (talk) 22:36, 1 March 2019 (CET)
No worries, this is why I like having your feed back, I like having these learning curves.
Would it work if Jordan wasn't actually fully inside her? Like the story with Zoey he can only fit roughly 2/3 of himself inside. Zoey is 6 and Tara is 7, but I don't think a year difference would make Tara any deeper, so could it be possible for the semen to escape then? or should I consider his girth might still block that from happening? If not, I think I have a correction in mind that could work. BluePanda (talk) 16:42, 1 March 2019 (CET)
So, the actual mechanic in play here has 100% to do with his girth, but it's actually not that his penis is creating a seal at the opening of her vagina. It's that his penis is applying pressure to her freshly ruptured hymen. The pressure from his penis inside her directly on the freshly torn membrane (that was applied along with and at the very second her hymen was torn) actually prevents the blood from coming out in any significant amount, and therefore whatever does come out would be very little if any. This is why Jordan will almost certainly see white semen coming out with very little pink tinge to speak of, and if a pink tinge is noticeable at this point where Jordan shouldn't be paying the kind of extra special attention that would be required to see the expected very small amount if any is present at all, it means that Tera is a serious bleeder and it could even indicate he caused an internal injury that is more serious than having just ripped her hymen. Barring that scenario, it would only bleed to the extent that would be easily noticeable after Jordan removes his penis and removes the pressure.
That said, if he leaves his penis inside her for a good 15 minutes or so, enough time for the tear to scab, there will be very very little if any blood that flows out of her. Either way though, there will be a plenty visible ring of blood on Jordan's penis regardless of whether he pulls out now or after 15 minutes. Jemini (talk) 02:31, 2 March 2019 (CET)