Talk:Life Hacks/rp-sld, "roses" (sensory)/All the above, plus get the "Forgiving" cheat

Because I just know the question is going to come up, I figure I will pre-emptively answer it. The "roses" in the title refers to the phrase "falling in the shit heap and coming up smelling of roses." In other words, he rapes Charity and she both forgives him and likes him for it. Jemini (talk) 15:14, 27 January 2018 (CET)

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but doesn't Xander only need Forgiving for Charity and Roni and then Sensory range Rape Fantasyland? The Fantasyland cheat seems to have a rape specific forgiveness built in. A family only Forgiving would also make Xander's mom forgive his eventual impregnation of all of his sisters. It would also grant more points to spend on "Fun" cheats. Quiller (talk) 16:38, 27 January 2018 (CET)

Take a look at the options at the bottom of the page, that's all already covered. Just go with the option you think is most appropriate. Jemini (talk) 22:01, 27 January 2018 (CET)

I guess I should clarify my question. Rape Shield downgrades rape to consensual sex for all observers. Does Rape Fantasyland not downgrade rape to consensual sex for the victim once the rape is over? An example; Xander could rape Trish (with no forgiving cheat) and afterward she would see it as purely consensual and fun. She might still be embarrassed about having sex in public, but the sex itself wouldn't seem a big deal besides some harmless fun. It might also boost her relationship scores with Xander if he makes her cum a lot. The part that might make Trish mad is if Xander got her pregnant but she would be mollified somewhat by the fact that the sex was "consensual". The forgiving cheat by itself would make Charity forgive Xander for raping her even if he did it every day for the rest of her life. She might not like getting raped but act itself would be forgiven. Xander could also steal from her or physically abuse her and still be forgiven afterward. So in my mind, the main use of the forgiving cheat would be for when Xander impregnates someone, especially family members. Due to all of his passes main recrimination will not be "you shouldn't have had sex with them" but "you should have used protection" Quiller (talk) 17:51, 28 January 2018 (CET)

Ah! Ok, yes, you've got the right idea. One thing that needs correcting though, there actually currently is no cheat to have a person connected to the one you are raping/having sex with approving of what you are doing. There is "cuckland" which goes to the extreme of them being turned on by it, but there is none that has them just accept it. (That might need to change.) The "passes" will cause people who are completely unrelated to the one you are having sex with to have no issue with it, but someone who does have a connection to them can still disapprove of it, not on grounds of it being rape, but on grounds that they shouldn't be having sex. So, without the forgiveness cheat, your mom would still have a HUGE problem with you having sex with your sisters, but due to the incest pass, it would be the same kind of problem she would have with a boyfriend having sex with them. (and that's even how it would be viewed if it was with Roni due to the age pass.) The "forgiving" cheat would probably not make her 100% cool with it, but it would keep her from making a big deal about it or really getting on your case. It would be more like she has accepted that "kids will be kids" and view it as the same kind of no-big-deal as if they left their dishes out on the table. She might even gripe at them about it, but it won't affect relationship scores, she won't ground you, and you could turn around and ask her for a big favor and have just as decent a chance of getting it as before even if she just caught you brutally raping your little sister. Jemini (talk) 18:41, 28 January 2018 (CET)

Thanks for the clarification. I'll second the request for the 2750 point option then. That leaves a lot of points for 'fun' cheats. and then finally a sex scene in the stands at Roni's game. Another option for a new cheat would be a 'single use forgiving'. Use it on a lifie and they instantly forgive you for all past wrongs but it has no effect going forward. This would open up a new category of cheats, The Expended on Use. Quiller (talk) 19:31, 28 January 2018 (CET)