User talk:Hgcollins

Elerneron

I took the liberty of adding you as an administrator. I am in a real bind right now. My computer died right before Christmas and I can only work off of my phone; which is a pain. If you can help to patrol the edits and guide the new people that would be a tremendous help. If you later feel that you need to step away, I would understand. --Elerneron (talk) 13:45, 5 January 2023 (CET)

I usually get around to cleaning up uncategorized pages, files, and categories once a year to catch the stuff I let slip through the cracks, but I didn't get in the mood last year. If you feel like helping out with the site in any way, feel free to do so. You don't need to feel obligated to do so however. Also, if you'd like you could introduce yourself as an administrator on the main page if you like...or not. I'll leave it up to you. --Elerneron (talk) 13:58, 6 January 2023 (CET)

I'm not seeing any activity on the block log, so I assume that you didn't actually block someone. If you ever do, you can go to their user page and there will be an option to unblock them under tools on the left bar.

Also, when you check out one of the unpatrolled edits (They have an exclaimation mark next to them in recent changes) please mark them patrolled by clicking the mark as patrolled link on the page. You can do a compare on the history to mark each individual edit of a page as patrolled. Trusted users and admins edits are automatically patrolled so the exclamation marks let us know the edits that are being made by less experienced users so we can make sure that they are doing things properly. --Elerneron (talk) 08:07, 8 January 2023 (CET)

I don't mind the featured story idea. I had a similar idea myself, but I felt that I really didn't have the time to maintain it. If you have any other ideas, feel free to play around with them. If I don't like something, I'll let you know. --Elerneron (talk) 17:28, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, a tag search would be awesome, but is beyond my technical ability. I was supposed to be the custodian for the site, not its chief of operations. This job is really beyond me sometimes...especially when it comes to making technical improvements. --Elerneron (talk) 22:07, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Old messages

It's always good to see new contributors on the site. Two of your recent contributions aren't properly formatted for the site, however. Pedo Romp/Go all out: with her cute body, you just can't help yourself and Pedo Romp/Teach her how to give you a blow job are both missing the category on the page. It is important that every story page on the site has a category. Please refer to the Format Rules to learn how to format contributions to the site. If you could add the category to the pages I mentioned, I would appreciate it. If you need any help, or have any questions feel free to contact me on my talk page. --Elerneron (talk) 14:28, 16 June 2020 (CEST) I took the liberty of removing "My Story" from the front of your links and moving the page that already had it in the title. While it isn't "wrong" to have it in the links, it is unnecessary extra work that doesn't really help keep everything separate. Simply starting the links with the story name is sufficient. If you want "My Story" in front of your links, let me know and I will change them back. --Elerneron (talk) 14:45, 8 September 2020 (CEST)

Innocent Ruin

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Thank you for your words, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I still have plenty of stuff to write to write about, and a whole bunch of stuff waiting proofreading. Like you said, fact-checking details and sticking to lore can be a little time-consuming. There's so much grey area in the lore, history and what really is true and what isn't. I probably have missed some details in previous updates, but I'll get to fixing stuff eventually. Feel free to contribute in any way you want. It's free format, free for all. Looking forward to seeing what you write about. Innocent Ruin (talk) 23:26, 7 October 2020 (CEST) Estrus Chaurus coupled with the Spider addon and Kyne's Blessing definetily adds a nice touch if you're into that sort of things. Bugs are kind of bland and way too easy otherwise, so for only increased difficulty's sake I like to run with them. I personally had no problem finding the requirements for LE, unless there's some requirements from older versions that aren't uploaded anywhere anymore. Not sure if that's the case for SE, not sure even which one you're running. I'm unlikely to take a direct approach when it comes to potential corrections. I don't like meddling with people's edits, so I'll stick to talk section if necessary. One thing I noticed is that you've forgotten to categorize your contribution. Just add this code somewhere in the pages you contribute so it'll adhere to site rules. Innocent Ruin (talk) 14:14, 8 October 2020 (CEST) [[Category:Journals of Skyrim]] Good to see you contributing again. In case you didn't notice I recently added page-counts for each individual set of journals, which will work in the same way as page-count in stories page by counting the number of pages a certain category is put under. This is completely optional, but if you want to, I can add these categories to your contributions as well, or you can do it yourself. Or not, it's completely optional like I said. Also, do you permit edits to your contributions in general, or do you prefer to do quality checks and proofreading yourself? I ran across a few typos (nothing major) while re-reading the first chapter. Innocent Ruin (talk) 17:42, 28 April 2021 (UTC) Yes, Ravencrone is kinda underrated, (I have no strong opinion of Benor personally,) and cut content, in general, feels like a problem with the base game. So many missed opportunities, like the Great Collapse, the Silver Hand, and whatever the fuck's up with Rorikstead's soil. At the same time, I feel like Bethesda likes having these characters and storylines where the player isn't told everything, and stuff is left for us to figure out... I guess it works in some areas too. Regarding the plot point you mentioned, it's funny because I didn't even intend to include it to begin with, and I'm still unsure where to go with it... But since it is part of the story now, I kinda have to stick with it! I still have the whole Solsteim to play around with before I get to that, but considering I don't intend to continue the journals for too much further (it's maybe two-thirds of the way through, unless I change my mind?) we should see some continuation to that sooner rather than later. --Innocent Ruin (talk) 13:06, 17 December 2021 (CET) I tried it, but at this point I'm just waiting for the full release, no matter how long it'll take. And morrowind is definitely one to try, although its mechanics have aged horribly. Pickpocketing straight up doesn't work, and hit chance takes a while to get used to. If you're patient, you can wait for Skywind, though. 😉 --Innocent Ruin (talk) 17:19, 17 December 2021 (CET) Thanks! Although can't say I've been gone for a long time. Finding both time and motivation to write anything feels like a challenge at the moment, though. I've only been having one, while the other is lacking. -- Innocent Ruin (talk) 00:36, 22 March 2023 (UTC) On the positive, I find research fun and interesting, and for fact-checking UESPWiki is enough most of the time. (At least, I hope so!) 😁 Still, been struggling on how to make the next couple of chapters work for Henriette, and especially around Ald Daedroth on the other journal. I'll see if I can push out something new sooner rather than the. -- Innocent Ruin (talk) 14:02, 22 March 2023 (UTC) Hey, just out of interest, does having admin privileges allow you to assign contributor status to new users, or is that only Elerneron? Thought I'd ask you directly since he's not super active on the wiki at the moment, and new users who want to contribute might get put off by long wait times. -- Innocent Ruin (talk) 18:06, 30 September 2023 (UTC) It's funny how that works. A couple of YouTubers talking about obscure obscure lore or an unsolved mystery have that same effect on me sometimes. 🤭 Hope the new content I've pushed out has been and will be enjoyable as well. -- Innocent Ruin (talk) 12:46, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

User Rights

You have been granted rights as a Trusted Contributor. This will allow you to do a bit more on the site, including moving pages without creating redirects and deleting pages among others. I hope this little powerup is helpful. --Elerneron (talk) 11:48, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Notsooldpervert

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Just browsing the Recent Changes page and stumbled across April's Punishment. I can only assume the parents already know how they're punished at school. You've just finished Part 4, with the implication being she'll be punished more at home. I hope we get to see her take a grown up cock in her tiny pussy. Maybe her punishments for a while could be training with increasingly bigger toys until she can take it. Too bad she's a habitual offender, let's see her spend half the year being sent to class naked with cum leaking from her pussy. Forgot her homework, sent to the office, sent back naked with a creampie. Called to the front of the class to read, they all watch a huge glob of cum drop out to the floor, so she's sent back at lunch for a refill for making a mess. Goes to collect her clothes after school, instead there's a contrived excuse to fuck her again, send her home naked and leaking. Oh, no! She leaked onto the seat of Daddy's car! Spends the rest of the afternoon draining dad repeatedly. Class the next morning, "I was being punished when I got home and didn't get to do my homework." By the end of the year, she has to turn her clothes in when she arrives to school (assuming she's allowed to wear them to school), and any boy who wants to can fuck her. Maybe she doesn't even get to go to class anymore, her "in school suspension" is to go to the middle and high school and help boys concentrate better by being a free use cocksleeve lol.... shame she'll have to repeat 1st grade. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 00:14, 6 December 2021 (CET) Hmmm... Mom is the one who trains her pussy. If Daddy's going to punish her at home, April has to do it right which means pussy full of cum. Every day (whether she gets punished or not) Mommy spends an hour fucking her with a toy. Maybe something like a butt plug but a dildo she has to hold inside of her until bedtime (or get punished), then another hour of fucking her with toys before bed. Love the idea of her being naked all the time at school, usually the only one who is. Never allowed to say no when people cop a feel. Also love the idea of her getting fucked by the teacher in front of her classmates, maybe for something Tiffany did. Ooohh I like that! She really is a good girl for the most part, but keeps getting blamed when other people do stuff. After all, she's got a reputation as a troublemaker now. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 00:40, 6 December 2021 (CET) Honestly, I'm neutral on the whole punishment aspect. To me it's about fucking the loli (repeatedly and preferably in public lol) and the punishment is really just a plot device to let it happen. Just love the idea of stripping a loli and doing lewd things to her in front of other kids, or even adults. She's naked and in stocks in the main courtyard of the mall with any passerby who wants to taking a turn. Why? Someone accused her of shoplifting (too bad Tiffany got away and April took the blame), so the adults just shake their heads at a troublemaker girl, and it's a shame she started so young. Oh well, time to go. After you watch three guys cum inside her, it just kinda blurs together, come along kids. No son, we don't have time for you to take a turn. Oh fine, your older sister can watch you while I head to the store. lol --Notsooldpervert (talk) 01:26, 6 December 2021 (CET) Awesome! I see Masterdebator is still writing, though sadly not Dan and His Boys. Or rather was still writing back in April, anyway. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 20:34, 10 December 2021 (CET) If you're in touch with any of those other authors, maybe they'd like ATF as a new venue to post, now that Lasiter is throwing in the towel. Don't burn yourself out, slow and steady wins the day. Though I do look forward to seeing April's next predicament lol --Notsooldpervert (talk) 22:55, 10 December 2021 (CET) Like I said, I loved the story enough to try and base an RP off of it lol I just never made the connection with your handle since it had been so long since I'd read it. Hopefully the other authors from Lasiter will come over here. I really want Masterdebator to finish Dan and His Boys. The only thing close to as hot as turning a loli into the family fuck toy, is a MILF turning herself into one for shotas lol What's next for Naomi, now that her little pussy is open for business? --Notsooldpervert (talk) 05:31, 13 December 2021 (CET) I think you caught it pretty close with Naomi. And she's learning little girls don't get a choice and just what they're for lol --Notsooldpervert (talk) 16:14, 13 December 2021 (CET) Hmmm... destroying her gifts might upset those who gave them. Maybe her punishment should be loss of clothes, instead of destroying them. Take them away, and make her go naked in public lol Obviously their treatment of her is accepted enough that the Members of the Board used her like that at the dinner party, perhaps making her go naked in public is frowned on but no one objects. Let strangers play with her body and force her to orgasm in public places. Dads who wish they could play with their daughters can touch or fuck her right in front of said daughters using Naomi as a surrogate. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 17:25, 15 December 2021 (CET) Nothing says the board members she'll be "entertaining" don't have kids. A family vacation where Mom entertains the kids while they watch daddy repeatedly fuck a girl their age. Mommies undressing the girls and having them spread their legs for Daddy to look at while he uses his new cocksleeve. Though I do like the random strangers doing it, too. Maybe a neighbor catches on to what's happening, and when his wife leaves for several hours he "borrows" Naomi, strips his toddler naked and stares at her while fucking Naomi, after which he has Naomi feed the tot Daddy's cum out of her pussy. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 18:23, 15 December 2021 (CET) Keep the daughter naked too, to "inspire him" to fuck Naomi more often. Use Naomi to teach the girl all the ways there are to get fucked: hard and mean, soft and gentle, girl on top, doggy style etc. Make the girl suck all of Daddy's cum out of Naomi to get used to the taste? Maybe her mother doesn't mind him using Naomi, and gently pets and strokes the naked daughter while they watch, sad that her little girl will end up like that but knowing it's "necessary" (which she assures the girl it is necessary). Maybe bring Naomi to that girls "debut" and have Naomi lick her clean between fucks? --Notsooldpervert (talk) 18:50, 15 December 2021 (CET) Hadn't read the updated version. I hate ass to mouth. Naomi should have puked on him lol --Notsooldpervert (talk) 20:18, 15 December 2021 (CET) Maybe instead of a dinner party, it's poker night or something and the girls "get" to serve while naked and used by whoever wants to? --Notsooldpervert (talk) 20:56, 29 December 2021 (CET) Had another idea for Naomi. A reluctant husband who doesn't want to have sex with young girls, but his mercenary/controlling wife insists the only way to get promoted is to do what the big wigs do and forces him to have sex with Naomi all weekend. Maybe he even comes to like Naomi more than his wife so when she suggests he take her away for a weekend he does it but it's fun for the both of them lol. Maybe Naomi has to show the lady the cum dripping from her pussy to prove he used her body or something. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 22:08, 9 January 2022 (CET) True! That also sets up situations where it's the wife that's a perv, not the hubby, making him do all the things she wishes she had a dick to do, or that she fantasizes were done to her as a kid. Meanwhile hubby's balls deep in Naomi thinking "is this the woman I married?" Too late to get a divorce now, because she's seen him doing this to a young girl lol I was just reading April's Punishment part 14, and a thought occurred to me. What if pictures and video of the girls was legal as long as it happens during their punishments (or as part of the punishment). Have photos of the girls stuffed with cock, gushing spunk from their tiny pussies or covered like they bathed in it posted all over the schools. Not just their school, but the junior high and high schools too (especially pictures taken while serving detentions at the older schools). I remember having a CCTV system when I was is Junior High and High School, and a couple of times a week they'd have a "news" show for kids. Every morning they could show a video of kids that were punished the day before as a "deterrent" for bad behavior, so every morning April and Tiffany would get to have a video of them cumming like sluts as they get filled up. April's treatment made me think of all of her classmates watching a video of her triple penetration lol Of course, copies of all pictures and video are sent to the parents (for legal purposes of course). April becomes the literal poster girl for the initiative and she can't go anywhere in town without seeing poster size photos of her naked, cum soaked and/or cock filled body (maybe even a billboard or two lol). --Notsooldpervert (talk) 17:24, 2 February 2022 (CET) Nice! Too bad the poor thing didn't just say she couldn't find her homework. Then she could have said she found it placed in the wrong folder or something. Oh well, more punishments mean getting her more and more addicted to multiple daily orgasms lol --Notsooldpervert (talk) 02:32, 24 April 2022 (CEST) Well... it is "April's Punishment". I wouldn't be offended if you glossed over Tiffany's weekend with the fat guy lol. Not exactly arousing to picture. Maybe Tiffany's turn with a dog since fucking is too much like exercise? lol --Notsooldpervert (talk) 01:49, 2 May 2022 (CEST) Maybe he's trying to impress friends and has a poker night or something with her as the entertainment... or a lavish weekend long party. When she turns up in the same dress, turns out she's not wearing panties (because they were taken by someone over the weekend) which is in violation of the school dress code, thus another punishment for poor Tif! --Notsooldpervert (talk) 02:29, 2 May 2022 (CEST)

I'll be honest, I got caught up in taking care of my dad, then dealing with his passing last year, so I kinda missed a lot. She was still at her first "sleep over" I think when I stopped reading for a while, then didn't have the energy to catch back up. That said, if they're moving to a new house, and you want her to still not have a door... maybe she gets a room but it's only to store her things in. With her gone so much they have to take advantage of every moment that she's home, so she always shares a bed with someone else. Her brothers, her parents whoever claims her that night gets her lol. --Notsooldpervert (talk) 22:56, 27 January 2023 (CET)

Wassersaeufer

Happy to read that you enjoy "Making the Team" and thank you for your kind words and that you have taken time to leave a comment on my talk-page. If you want to add to "Making the Team", just go for it. If you have read it, I am pretty confident you know what would fit and what wouldn't. --Wassersaeufer (talk) 00:12, 12 December 2021 (CET)

Wassersaeufer2

Hello there. Just saw that you posted a few pages into "Making the Team" and I really enjoyed those. Thank you for it, I really appreciate it. And yes, I am the original Wassersaeufer, I lost my password and never really bothered to get it back or my account back. Just made this new account to tell you how much I enjoyed the new pages to the story. -- Wassersaeufer2 (talk) 02:00, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

You are very welcome, I did enjoy it. I didn't keep the writing up and then I lost my password, like I said, but I hope I can get back into the writing mood. And then clean up a few small mistakes, adding to a page and fixing mistakes comes easier to me than really writing. So please, keep it coming, I enjoy those additions a lot. -- Wassersaeufer2 (talk) 02:05, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Also, just saw that you have been promoted to admin. Would you be able to help me with recovering my old account? I already wrote to Elernon as well, but I thought as you are apparently here, I might try my luck this way. I apologize if this is not how it is supposed to be done and I am making a huge mess right now. -- Wassersaeufer2 (talk) 02:40, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Got it, thank you. -- Wassersaeufer2 (talk)

Josepadilla

Thank you for your words, they motivate me to continue writing, I read a bit of your story of the punishment of April and I think it is very good, when I finish reading it I will give my final opinion. --Josepadilla (talk) 01:38, 22 December 2021 (CET)

PrincessKittens

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I haven't done much for that story (Siblings) in a little while, I might add some more tomorrow or something... Glad you are enjoying it though! --PrincessKittens (talk) 08:53, 29 December 2021 (CET) I added two more pages to my story (Siblings), more coming soon! Just thought I should tell you! :D --PrincessKittens (talk) 13:00, 31 December 2021 (CET) My most recent chapter ends kind of in the middle of the story, I apologize, I will probably add the next one today! --PrincessKittens (talk) 11:13, 2 January 2022 (CET) Why don't you tell me some of your ideas :) I am curious to see what you come up with. I am just going to say, all of those are wrong... XD anyway, but keep guessing... maybe you will land on the truth... I will say this... The whole raping little girls thing... That is something I have fantasized over for about 10 years... And Kate is a real person, she was sort of the center of all that, she was around 8-10 when I started fantasizing... (by the way, I have never acted on these fantasies, everything has stayed in my head XD I wouldn't actually do most of the stuff I write about IRL, especially not to someone so young.)--PrincessKittens (talk) 00:27, 12 January 2022 (CET) I will give you a hint... It is more personal. - You can decide what that means - also I worded my above message wrong it should have been more vague, it is currently misleading it should say - I am just going to say, all of those are wrong... XD anyway, but keep guessing... maybe you will land on the truth... I will say this... The whole little girls being raped thing... That is something I have fantasized over for about 10 years... And Kate is a real person, she was sort of the center of all that, she was around 8-10 when I started fantasizing... (by the way, I have never acted on these fantasies, everything has stayed in my head XD I wouldn't actually want to do most of the stuff I write about IRL.) Just some small changes in wording... --PrincessKittens (talk) 01:30, 13 January 2022 (CET)

I noticed in your stories list on your User page, it is a little bit cluttered, it is organized, but too big. If you want to shrink it a little, you could use a collapsible table, like I do on my User page, like this for example:

Story name
Story codes:	-STORY CODES-
Plot Summary:	-PLOT SUMMARY-
You can easily	Add more stuff
If you need to	XD

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Thanks! --PrincessKittens (talk) 18:33, 23 February 2022 (CET) I am so so so so sorry, I accidentally deleted your page Sexual Research Commission/Sorensen/1 - I tried to undo it, but I couldn't figure out how to do it, I will keep trying though. --PrincessKittens (talk) 10:28, 26 February 2022 (CET) Alright, I am extremely sorry though, I will definitely write that story! --PrincessKittens (talk) 12:06, 26 February 2022 (CET) I wrote the first page of the Naomi Wildman story NW --PrincessKittens (talk) 09:48, 27 February 2022 (CET) Hgcollins, you now have all rights to all my stories, templates, categories, and even, my user page. (For more information, go to my user page and look at the "News".) --PrincessKittens (talk) 20:03, 28 February 2022 (CET) edit: please allow me to write one more page on NW (Page 5) edit 2: this is not a prank or joke, I am serious, it is all yours now. Thanks, I will still write one more page on Naomi Wildman, but after that, I am leaving for good! I will miss you all! --PrincessKittens (talk) 20:11, 28 February 2022 (CET) I said that I was gonna write 1 more page, well, I ended up writing like 10 XD anyway, I finished the Naomi Wildman story, but I set it up so that you could continue it if you wanted to. I am finally leaving, I will miss you all! 🖖 Live long and prosper! --PrincessKittens (talk) 10:15, 4 March 2022 (CET) -Ship... Out of danger? -Yes! ... -Don't grieve admiral... it is logical... the needs of the many... outway... -The needs of the few. -Or the one... ... I have been... and always shall be... your friend... 🖖 Live long... and prosper!🖖 --PrincessKittens (talk) 10:29, 4 March 2022 (CET)

JayneDeviant

Thanks so much for the kind words, still getting the hang of it! --JayneDeviant (talk) 04:03, 30 December 2021 (CET)

RonaldMcDonald

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I don't know if you would be interested, or how this would really work, but I am interested in writing a collaborative story with someone, and you seem like the kind of person to do such a thing with. By the way, I don't have a plot in mind, so if you agree, either you can make a plot and tell me about it, or I can think of something, but I won't waste my time thinking of a plot if we aren't even gonna write it, so let me know what you think! (I feel like I talk a lot, I could probably shorten this message a LOT) --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:09, 1 May 2022 (CEST) First, what is 'nepi' (I feel stupid for not knowing it, but I don't lol, I tried looking it up and came short XD) I am mostly the same as you as far as what you said in your message, as far as beastiality goes, it depends on my mood, sometimes I like it and sometimes it grosses me out XD As far as formatting, I think the easiest thing to do would be, for example: I write chapter 1, you write chapter 2, I write chapter 3, etc. Lol, so maybe we should do that Also, if we are going to be collaborating on a story, and talking about ideas for plot or whatever and stuff - should we find an easier place to communicate, cuz this system is not the best lol, let me know what you think about that RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:27, 1 May 2022 (CEST) Ok, I will email you the following message so that you know it is me, "Hello, I am RonaldMcDonald, from AllTheFallen Stories 1234567890." --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:38, 1 May 2022 (CEST) Did it work? Or are you just offline? Lol --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:46, 1 May 2022 (CEST) So, do you ever check your email XD (Hope that didn't sound rude, I meant it as funny, not rude lol) --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:22, 2 May 2022 (CEST) I just read the entire story (so far) of April's Punishment. I AM SO ENJOYING IT! Keep up the great work, HG Collins! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:49, 4 May 2022 (CEST) Should we go ahead and create the title page for our story? If so, should I create it, or do you want to? Also an idea I had, instead of having a link to character profiles, we could use my Profile Template for them instead, it doesn't take that much space, and might be the easiest thing to do. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:04, 14 May 2022 (CEST) Just so you know, starting on the 24th of May, until like the end of May, I probably won't be on very much, or at all. I will go ahead and create the title page(IA), but I will let you fill out your character's profile, then you can start writing. - I am super excited to finally be writing this. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:36, 19 May 2022 (CEST) Check email before writing page 1 :) --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:27, 23 May 2022 (CEST) Sorry for the late reply, life has been busy, though it seems it has for you as well, XD, well, I'll read the chapter you wrote, then write the next one soon, thanks for your patience --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:11, 12 July 2022 (CEST) Please fill in more information about Ethan in Incestuous Affairs whenever you get a chance, or if you don't want to bother, I can do it, but it looks empty right now, LOL. --RonaldMcDonald (forgot to add signatue) I added the next chapter, Chapter 2, to IA, so you can start writing the next one whenever you are ready. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 12:12, 14 July 2022 (CEST) I might be ok with a "Darker turn of events..." Depending on what that means, email me and elaborate please XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 13:27, 26 July 2022 (CEST) Ok, sounds good! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 22:47, 27 July 2022 (CEST) So, I don't want to sound rude or anything, but, how long does it take you to write? I have been on the edge of my seat for a little over a week now, with the whole "darker turn of events" thing, XD. Anyway, I know that sounded kind of rude, I didn't really mean to be rude, just curious as to what is taking so long, lol. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:01, 5 August 2022 (CEST) Oh, ok,no problem, just wondering what was taking so long, :) --RonaldMcDonald—talk 19:28, 5 August 2022 (CEST) Umm, Who is Jessie, XD, by context I am assuming you meant Ethan... Anyway, I like the idea, but yeah, I agree, maybe it should wait a little. Depending on what happens in your chapter, I might write it next chapter, anyway, have fun writing! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:43, 8 August 2022 (CEST) / did you disappear again? Lol --RonaldMcDonald—talk 16:53, 12 August 2022 (CEST) ...where are you? Lol, I emailed you as well, are you ok? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 22:35, 18 August 2022 (CEST) Ok, glad to hear that, for some reason I was legit worried about you, lol - anyway, can't wait to read it! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 14:24, 21 August 2022 (CEST) Great! Can't wait! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:14, 22 August 2022 (CEST) Lol, yeah --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:44, 23 August 2022 (CEST) I definitely enjoyed that, that turned out a lot better than I expected, also, I as far as Jessie goes, no, I didn't have any plans for her specifically, I don't make many plans for this, mainly because it is a collab, and my plans could just be ripped apart with one small plot point, lol --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:42, 25 August 2022 (CEST) The thing we planned in the emails for the birthday, didn't end up happening, which is fine, I don't really care that much, but when should it happen? Should I write it in my next chapter? Lol or do you wanna wait a little longer?--RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:36, 25 August 2022 (CEST) Oh, and you should fill out the profile in the main page ([IA]) for Ethan --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:38, 25 August 2022 (CEST) Yeah! I can't seem to find it either! I thought I was just not seeing it, I wonder what happened? Oh well, anyway, check email, I have a question.... I just posted chapter 4 (IA/4), hope you enjoy, it is a bit long, about double the length of the one you just did (my biggest edit yet on this site!) +35,600 bytes!!! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 14:49, 27 August 2022 (CEST) I don't mind if you skip to summer, I don't think I had anything planned for the near future... Anyway, glad you enjoyed! Hope you don't take too long this time XD (take as much time as you need, I am mostly joking-mostly! XD don't take too long!) --RonaldMcDonald—talk 13:34, 29 August 2022 (CEST) How's it coming? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 12:26, 3 September 2022 (CEST) Nice, can't wait! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:29, 5 September 2022 (CEST) I enjoyed that a lot! And you also set up a start to my next chapter, less work for me! XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 14:44, 6 September 2022 (CEST) I am not gonna make it this chapter, unless you are okay with me skipping to august, but I wanna write Ethan's birthday, I have an idea for it. If you are ok with skipping to august, I am too, so I can make it this chapter if you want :) --RonaldMcDonald—talk 16:48, 6 September 2022 (CEST) Where do you think they live? I would assumed the United States, but where in the US? (Talking about Ethan and Lilly from IA) --RonaldMcDonald—talk 15:16, 10 September 2022 (CEST) Oh, and also, this coming chapter is very long... I said this not that long ago: I just posted chapter 4 (IA/4), hope you enjoy, it is a bit long, about double the length of the one you just did (my biggest edit yet on this site!) +35,600 bytes!!! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 14:49, 27 August 2022 (CEST) But I will be doubling, maybe even tripling that number in this coming chapter, not exaggerating! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 18:21, 10 September 2022 (CEST) I have been very busy with real life lately, but I should have it up today or tomorrow hopefully. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 18:00, 11 September 2022 (CEST) First off, you are an amazing writer! Both in the content you create, but also how you write it. I love the stories, but what I notice the most, when reading them, is not the plot, or the story itself, it's the flow and how easy it is to read! A lot of stories (on here, and actual books, including some of my stuff, not gonna lie) have horrible flow, and just switch to something else without context, making it hard to read. Your stories are much easier to read and follow. It's not just me, who thinks this, my best friend, who also reads your stuff, agrees with me. He doesn't have an account on here, but he reads a lot on here. Secondly, I truly think that you should pursue a career as a real author, probably writing about other things than you write on here... but I still think you should! Of course, if you don't, and just continue writing here, I won't be mad... XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:46, 12 September 2022 (CEST) IA/6 is up (IA/6/1 IA/6/2 IA/6/3) Even with splitting it up into parts, the second and third part exceeded IA/4 lol--RonaldMcDonald—talk 14:55, 12 September 2022 (CEST) I don't have any particular opinion on where they live, though I did mention New Jersey in the chapter, though we can change it, though probably not Florida, given the chapter I just wrote., so if you wanted them to be close to one of the disney things, it would have to be california, but its up to you where they live, I don't care -- -- though, one unrelated thought, we probably should slow down on time jumps for a while, don't want her to grow up too fast, at our current pace, next thing you know, by chapter 20, she is gonna be like 14-15 years old XD (No, I didn't do the math, I just guessed) Though, after writing this, I decided to do the math (I need a life) and counting the first two chapters, which contain the most time skips, we average around a year every 3-4 chapters, so she wouldn't be older than 12 by the 20th chapter she would be 10.9 (10 years 11 months) to 12.1 (12 years 1 month) (3.5 (3 years 6 months) to 4.7 years (4 years 8 months) older than she currently is, which is around 7.4 (7 years 5 months)) LOL why did I waste my time doing that math? -- -- -- after thought: (Though this is incorrect, it is more like 2-3chapters per year if we count the first two, but I am not doing the math for that, it hurts) Well, hope you enjoyed seeing me suffer and waste my time doing math, and I forget how I did the math, so it is possible those numbers are not accurate, but whatever -- hope this wasn't too confusing, if it was, just ignore it, point is, we should slow down a little on the time jumps, and they don't live in florida, and that's all I care --RonaldMcDonald—talk 12:21, 13 September 2022 (CEST) How's it coming? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:49, 17 September 2022 (CEST) Ooh, "little things and seeing if I use them?" Sounds fun XD can't wait! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 00:46, 19 September 2022 (CEST) Oh? I won't see this twist coming? Yeah, right! I can see it from a mile away!... Ok, you're probably right, I probably won't see it coming.... Can't wait! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 08:54, 21 September 2022 (CEST) I am impatient... that's all I am gonna say, lol --RonaldMcDonald—talk 07:08, 23 September 2022 (CEST) Ugh, the suspense is killing me! XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:45, 24 September 2022 (CEST) So, how long do you think it will take you? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 06:26, 25 September 2022 (CEST) ...hmm, where is that collins, I wonder? Where has he gone off to this time? Hmm... Hope he'll be back for supper... --RonaldMcDonald—talk 08:00, 27 September 2022 (CEST) Glad you finally got it up, I will read it as soon as I have the time! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:14, 28 September 2022 (CEST) I read it, and I enjoyed it, I am starting to write my chapter --RonaldMcDonald—talk 19:14, 28 September 2022 (CEST) I have just written a major plot twist, and the best part, is that you get to decide the outcome of the twist... And by "major", I mean... "MAJOR"! Hehehe, anyway, I should have it up tomorrow or the next day, I don't know. Maybe today? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:23, 29 September 2022 (CEST) It's up! Can't wait to see where you take this... Lol --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:35, 30 September 2022 (CEST) Yeah, that's why I made you decide, because I couldn't, XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:30, 3 October 2022 (CEST) How's it coming? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:11, 5 October 2022 (CEST) Alright! Can't wait! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:16, 7 October 2022 (CEST) Ugh! The suspense! XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 08:00, 9 October 2022 (CEST) Oof, you disappeared again? You have a seriously busy life, don't you? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:14, 11 October 2022 (CEST) Well, hope you don't take too long, it has been two weeks since I posted my chapter, lol, just don't disappear again, XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:53, 13 October 2022 (CEST) Hmm, sounds interesting, can't wait! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 08:39, 15 October 2022 (CEST) Alright, sounds good, how long until you're done with your chapter, you think? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 07:38, 18 October 2022 (CEST) This is a joke, I am not mad at you: You have lied to me! You said in the next 12 hours or so! But it has been said time! And there is no published chapter! Explain yourself!!! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 08:49, 21 October 2022 (CEST) 12 hours you say? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 16:42, 22 October 2022 (CEST) Hmm, I wonder where he is this time?... --RonaldMcDonald—talk 08:25, 24 October 2022 (CEST) Yeah, given your track record, it's probably best not to make promises, can't wait, though! I hope you're right about it being worth the wait! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:46, 25 October 2022 (CEST) Great! I'll read it as soon as I get some free time! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 13:19, 26 October 2022 (CEST) I have read it, interesting turn of events, I was certainly not expecting that! I have been correcting a few errors and typos, and formatting, and I realized, mom comes home long after dinnertime, and she asked "what do you kids want for dinner?"... and then they proceeded to have dessert and watch a movie, no doubt, by the time the movie was over, they should be waking up... XD Should I fix that, just rewrite a few paragraphs, keep all the plot the same, should be an easy fix. Or should I leave it? Up to you. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:02, 27 October 2022 (CEST) Alright, I'm gonna rewrite part of your chapter to remove that whole part about dinner, though I will keep everything important that happened during that time. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 12:55, 27 October 2022 (CEST) Ok, im done editing your chapter, the new version is up, I just made them go straight to bed after the phone call with Jessie's mom, pretty much ,(I still made their mom warn Ethan, because that was important to plot) --RonaldMcDonald—talk 13:41, 27 October 2022 (CEST) Does their mother have a name? And do they have a last name? And does their dead father have a name? Lol, does anyone have a name? XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 12:18, 29 October 2022 (CEST) Ok, for their mom, how about Katherine; for their dad, how about Thomas; and for their last name, how about Walker? Let me know what you think of these names, if you want different ones, that's fine. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 00:20, 30 October 2022 (CEST) Ok, this chapter has taken a little longer than I expected, though not nearly as long as yours... Anyway, I should have it up in 2-3 days? Maybe less, maybe more, idk XD Oh, and also, this is definitely gonna be an unexpected twist, I just wish I could see your face when you read it... --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:57, 2 November 2022 (CET) Yeah, I just rewrote the entire thing, because what I wrote before, was completely out of character for Ethan, and their dead father... Wait what?... So I ditched that idea, and now I am writing a more normal-well-ish, chapter --RonaldMcDonald—talk 12:39, 3 November 2022 (CET) Not kidding about the dead father thing, I was gonna make it so he faked his death, and joined a secret organization that does illegal experiments on kids, and they try to do an experiment on Lilly, that's why I decided to give the parents names, but I figured that was a little... umm... too much! XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 12:42, 3 November 2022 (CET) Schedule for a normal school day (assuming everything goes according to schedule, which rarely ever happens, at least for the sleep schedule) Let me know if you would change any part of this... 7:00 AM Lilly and Ethan wake up 8:00 AM Lilly and Ethan go to school 2:30 PM Ethan gets out of school 2:40 PM Ethan makes it home 2:45 PM Mommy leaves for work 3:00 PM Mommy arrives at work, Lilly gets out of school 3:10 PM Lilly makes it home, Lilly and Ethan eat after school snack 7:00 PM Lilly and Ethan eat dinner 9:00 PM Lilly goes to sleep 12:00 AM Ethan goes to sleep 5:00 AM Mommy gets out of work 5:15 AM Mommy makes it home Mommy works 14 hours, Lilly sleeps 10 hours, Ethan sleeps 7 hours --RonaldMcDonald—talk 13:38, 3 November 2022 (CET) I don't know when your chapter ended, mid October? but my chapter ended at the end of November. I should be able to post it tomorrow, assuming I don't try to rewrite the whole thing like last time. -----------RonaldMcDonald—talk 12:42, 4 November 2022 (CET) What are your views on pee, like for example, someone peeing on another one, or something, I know you don't like scat, but you never mentioned one way or the other on pee, so let me know what you think, of course, it would be a little out of character for Ethan to just pee on her, but I am a master at doing stuff out of character, and still making it in character, I do it all the time, because I keep making him hurt her XD I am not gonna do it in this next chapter, regardless of your answer, because I have already pretty much finished it... unless you respond within an hour or two XD Anyway, let me know how you feel about pee (I don't like making characters drink it, but pretty much anything else with it, is fine with me) --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:14, 5 November 2022 (CET) Ok, it's up, a bit long, but my chapters are often long, XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 13:14, 5 November 2022 (CET) Thanks, also you never responded to the pee question above lol --RonaldMcDonald—talk 22:38, 5 November 2022 (CET) So, how's your chapter coming? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 14:58, 10 November 2022 (CET) Yeah, their mom is an interesting situation - do however much you want --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:49, 11 November 2022 (CET) So, how's it comin'? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:56, 14 November 2022 (CET) Great! How long do you think it will take you? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:52, 15 November 2022 (CET) Please tell me you have just been too busy writing to respond, and not that you had something else to do XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:25, 17 November 2022 (CET) Oh, ok, well don't take too long! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 06:50, 19 November 2022 (CET) Not saying I will do this, but what do you think about Ethan inviting some friends over, and they like fuck her or something. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 06:44, 21 November 2022 (CET) I liked your chapter, glad you finally got it up! XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 15:58, 22 November 2022 (CET) I have been a bit busy, lately, haven't got much done on IA/12, but I am going on vacation for about a week, starting like tomorrow, so I won't be able to write much. When I get back, though, I will write, and hopefully get it done in a few days. Another thing, can you check your email, and find the last email I sent you, and tell me what my email address is, I forgot it XD. The one that is _____@mail.com, not _____@protonmail.com. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 16:51, 27 November 2022 (CET) Thanks, and thanks, I was trying to do just ronaldmcdonald XD - See ya in about a week. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 07:50, 28 November 2022 (CET) I'm back, I'll hopefully finish the chapter in a few days --RonaldMcDonald—talk 07:18, 5 December 2022 (CET) Well, shit... I accidentally deleted the file with the chapter in it, so I am gonna have to rewrite it all. *sigh* --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:33, 6 December 2022 (CET) Yeah, thats true --RonaldMcDonald—talk 10:29, 6 December 2022 (CET) Does their mom work on weekends ? --RonaldMcDonald—talk 20:32, 6 December 2022 (CET) Ok, I never thought of the possibility of a new job, XD, I won't touch that subject in my chapter, but if you wanna do it at some point, I'm cool with that. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:42, 7 December 2022 (CET) Oh, and also, what are Ethan's views on their mom joining, not yours, but Ethan's I am probably pretty close to finishing, though it might end up in two parts. Also, it occurs to me, that Brian was probably in Middle school now, because he was "one of the older kids" in the previous school year, then now, after summer, he probably got moved to middle school(Also, I decided he has also already turned eleven, his birthday is in the summer(IA/Birthdays)) --RonaldMcDonald—talk 07:45, 11 December 2022 (CET)

I am almost done, and have been for a few days, I have just been very slow lately, but hopefully I won't be too long, should be within a few days, I hope! Rewriting it didn't actually mess me up that much, I was able to get back to where I was in like two days, XD. RonaldMcDonald—talk 08:37, 15 December 2022 (CET)

I am just gonna say, I kept writing, forever, and ever, now I have a three part chapter, like chapter 6, and I am nearly finished, just one more day, I hope! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:22, 17 December 2022 (CET)

It occurs to me, it has been almost a month, since you finished your chapter, though I did go on vacation, then delete the chapter accidentally, so I have only been writing for ten days, XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk

Ok, well, I had some technical problems with my computer, they're fixed now, but I couldn't use wifi, and I lost a bunch of stuff, including the chapter, yay, so I am gonna rewrite it, and just push through to try and get it out in a day or two XD --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:03, 22 December 2022 (CET)

Assuming Lilly wanted to, would Ethan get turned on by hurting Lilly? Assuming Lilly wanted him to, and enjoyed it, which is virtually never gonna happen, but whatever. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 09:18, 29 December 2022 (CET)

I think when he did it in the past, it was an accident, but maybe he still gets turned on by it, just doesn't do it on purpose, because he doesn't want to hurt her, either way, whether he used to be turned on by it or not, he is now, for my chapter, without giving away too much spoilers. --RonaldMcDonald—talk 11:14, 30 December 2022 (CET)

Chapter 12 is up, it probably should have been two parts, it is a little long, but whatever. I hope you like it, I took an interesting path. The chapter ends on Thursday, December 5. -- RonaldMcDonald—talk 00:32, 31 December 2022 (CET)

Hehe, can't wait, hope it doesn't take you a month, like it took me! --RonaldMcDonald—talk 08:35, 31 December 2022 (CET)

SodaPopSweet

Aw, thanks for reading. Your comments were very sweet. I’m definitely trying to provide a bit of elevated smut compared to most of the garbage written out there. :) SodaPopSweet (talk) 08:09, 3 May 2022 (CEST)

Abadman

Hey, so I understand Princess Kittens has left her stories in your care. I've done a little writing contributions recently in 2T4U, but I'd really like to do some for for 10 days to live. Feel free to check my contributions to see if they're up to snuff. Since all her stories are requested to not edit without permission but I'd like to add further days to the story I figured I'd put the request to you. Lmk.--Abadman (talk) 05:42, 7 June 2022 (CEST)

MrPib

Regarding blocking and unblocking, please have a look at the MediaWiki documentation UNBLOCKING

An IP address or registered user account can be unblocked via the list of active blocks. Find the IP address or registered user account you wish to unblock in the list (you can enter the address or name in the "Find a blocked user" field to help you find the entry), and click the "unblock" link displayed to the right of the block's expiry time.

This will lead you to a confirmation page. Enter the reason for unblocking (optional) in the "Reason:" field, and click "Remove this block" to remove the block. All unblockings are recorded in the block log.

Note that if a range is blocked, then the unblock must cover the whole range to be effective. Attempting to unblock an individual IP address in the range will not work.

--MrPib (talk) 06:53, 8 January 2023 (CET)

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When removing an image for being too real, in some cases it best to "replace" the infringing image with a new revision and then delete the realistic version.

In Alessa's case, all they need to do, if they ever come back, is upload a new revision of the image.

Doin this would also prevent a red link from being created.

--MrPib (talk) 03:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Dotty

Hello, and thanks for the welcome. Some of your stories, and ones you've contributed to, are the cause of a whole lot of nutting on my part. Which supposedly is good for the prostate, so.. many thanks, I guess. :D As a completely new author, I could use some guidance. For example, is there a place to post drafts or framework of a story where people expecting proper, completed and corrected stories won't stumble across it? This night I've spent... more hours than I'd care to admit, to write roughly 65 lines in a text editor, and although it will probably be more lines once formatted for the wiki, it's far from being complete - so I should perhaps not post it. But at the same time, I'd love to post it to get some basic feedback from other authors, so that I won't make the same continuous mistakes while expanding on the story so far. In short, is it alright to post a story on the Wiki but just wait with categorizing it until I'm happy with it? Dotty (talk) 07:29, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Forced Nudity Story Archive

After ASSTR the Forced Nudity Story Archive lives on at https://puericil.netlify.app/fna/. Stories seem to be updated every month. --Cum Girl (talk) 08:13, 14 January 2023 (CET)

Jasmine Horus

Thank you for the welcome. I actually know you from AO3. In fact, I found this site from a link in an author's notes about a story from there. I stole your CSS you use for your page for mine. I hope you don't mind. I'm alright with CSS, but my knowledge is limited. I'm very well versed in wiki-coding. I look forward to reading more of your stories. --Jasmine Horus (talk) 11:50, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

I’m curious. How much time out of your day do you spend writing? You came out with the first three chapters of Jedi Girl fairly quickly. Quicker than I would have done. --Jasmine Horus (talk) 10:31, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Hope

I see you have been working through some of my stories and adding links to Categories. Thank you for that.

There are a lot of unfinished stories there too. Sometimes I have to quit abruptly and other times I just don't know where a story is going. I will try to do better with categories though. Hope (talk) 09:00, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Happy to see featured stories on the main page. Finding stories as a reader has been tricky here for me, particularly after the alphabet split, so highlighting a few is great.

I had been thinking that it might be easier to find stories based on content rather than alphabetically by leveraging categories. It wouldn't literally have to be story codes (although that's an option) but if we were to create a small selection of categories that authors could use to optionally tag the first page of their story then it would be possible to browse a list of stories based on that category. They could be broad genres like "incest" or "love story" or "gore" or they could focus on the most prominent elements of a story like "Father-Daughter" or "rape". Authors wouldn't have to restrict their story to one genre, but I think flipping all story codes into category tags would be too cumbersome to manage and too narrow to browse. But the ability to browse by higher level genres would make the site's content much more accessible to the reader since they could see stories from different sections of the site all at once.

Elerneron can certainly chime in as maybe there's a reason this hasn't been done before, but I don't think it would be too difficult. Just a category for each genre and all the genres can be presented on one page which is linked to the main page and then add somewhere in the format rules how to add a genre to your story. The hardest part is likely selecting a good mix of genres. --Villenia (talk) 12:06, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

TheBoy69

Hello. Thank you for helping me with adding categories to my stories. I’m sorry my formatting isn’t good at the moment, I’m still working out how this all works. I’d be honoured to have Little Gym Bunny featured

P.D.Vile

LOL! I did not know that Dutch stories are permitted here as well. Great idea to add my Dutch stories here too. Extra redundancy is always beneficial Thanks for the idea! P.D.Vile (talk) 15:38, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps you can help me with this?
Today I uploaded a new version of an image, because the old version has an error. However, on the page where that image is used, I keep seeing the old version, even after I deleted it from the version history of the uploaded picture.
Perhaps this is just a browser caching issue and it will fix itself in a few hours. Or perhaps I am doing something wrong?
--P.D.Vile (talk) 17:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me to the missing category. It should be fixed now.
--P.D.Vile (talk) 19:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up about the missing categories in the contest pages. I fixed it, and then also noticed a missing category on one of my story pages, so I fixed that too.
--P.D.Vile (talk) 20:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Alessa

Ok, done. And thanks for adding my story. --Alessa (talk) 22:30, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

FitLover

Hello, I asked for the contributor status a couple weeks back on Elernon's page and have forgotten most of what I wanted to write since then. I am hoping to write what I still remember. Apparently Elernon is not here anymore but has granted you admin rights. Could you grant me contributor rights so I can write here please? There was also another user who asked for contributor rights a week before me on Elernon's page, dunno if he has completely given up by this point or not. His pseudo was Koraidon. Thanks in advance FitLover (talk) 17:21, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Just writting to say I saw you message. Thanks a lot for your help and fingers crossed that I get the status. Again thanks for your help FitLover (talk) 10:39, 7 October 2023 (UTC)