Talk:Life Hacks/Charity-preg/Chrty pick + (kinder)78 pick/Rape girl - Billie/Mother4/Billy les/4+father/Outside debate/Younger/TrustExperiment/False

Since there was a vote for convincing the guy you were an 8 year old girl on the last list of options, I just decided to go with it for the next step to proceed the conversation. I was a little eager to write something and not so willing to wait. Jemini (talk) 00:01, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Shouldn't the instant approval cheat make this whole path moot? With that on, he'd have approved of the 15 yo Xander playing with his daughter's privates, and would only possibly have the trust issue of him taking her out of view. He would approve it happening right in front of him, and with the greater trust for the experiment would show you the threshold where he would let you take the girl someplace else to fuck her (high enough, just take her home with you tonight lol). --Notsooldpervert (talk) 07:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

The idea is that he's sexually ignorant, and as such is a little hung up on the part about seeing and touching privates as "wrong" because "it's wrong" and no other reason. Basically, because his sex knowledge has been erased by the cheat, it also removed his knowledge of the fact that you have to see and touch privates in order to have sex. So, he can approve of you having any kind of romantic relationship with his daughter despite the age gap, up to and including marriage, due to the instant approval. He would approve of you kissing her without a problem. But, as a parent, he has to teach you not to go doing stuff like seeing her privates. (Also, to him, seeing her changing clothes and having full blown vaginal sex with her are the same thing. That's in the sense of vaginal sex being seen as more mild to the same level as most people view seeing a girl changing.) In other words, this path is happening because I like the idea of the program conflicting and creating very weird results. Jemini (talk) 10:07, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Also, yes, he was triggered by the factor of you wanting to take her off alone. He would probably be a lot less resistant if it was done right in front of him from the start. He was even willing to allow the sexual contact at the start, and really the reason he keeps driving at it now has more to do with the fact he got on this kick and doesn't want to back down from what he's already argued. That's an even bigger factor than what I said a moment ago (in the above paragraph.) Jemini (talk) 10:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

If, to his mind, seeing her naked and having sex with her are equally "wrong", the instant approval should still kick in and make him approve of it. Hell, Xander has "vindictive approval" so even if the girl were kicking and screaming Dad would approve of Xander stripping and fucking her wherever he felt like it. Meh, it's a story element. Have fun. lol --Notsooldpervert (talk) 18:49, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Oh, BTW, just looked back at the notes on both "instant approval" and also "vindictive approval." It specifies that they have to be otherwise socially acceptable for you as a partner. So, these last few passages were played pretty accurately considering it was testing the limits of what would be permitted without the "age pass" cheat. So, we can probably forget the rest of what was said in this exchange. This is all straight-up how it is supposed to go from the start. Jemini (talk) 19:57, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Would the 'Instant Approval' come into effect if everyone was sexually ignorant? It does specify that they would approve of a 'consensual sexual relationship'. If they didn't actually no what a sexual relationship is, would it still count? User1993

Exactly. Under these conditions, you are capable of getting an insane statement like "Ok, yes, you can have sex and get my daughter pregnant, but you can't see or touch each other's privates because that's wrong." Doesn't really matter in the first place though, she's not considered an age-appropriate partner therefore "instant approval" doesn't even come into play in the first place. Jemini (talk) 05:14, 4 March 2021 (UTC)